Personally, I took a good look at the universe that the other guy is supposed to have built and thought, "That's just shit" and decided to make my own.

(December 11, 2014 at 9:12 am)Stimbo Wrote: Personally, I took a good look at the universe that the other guy is supposed to have built and thought, "That's just shit" and decided to make my own.

Universal sandbox make your own universe be your own god then destroy it.

also why do people still say god made everything here is the big thing right now. the universe is going to a eventual heat death because things are to complex
and complex things well yeah entropy break complex down and as far as heat goes when it goes to the eventual counter no heat everything will die the universe
will just stop. there is no way a god could have created the universe and expected it to be around forever because if god was all smart he would have stopped entropy.
also for the fact our galaxy is getting hit by another galaxy so there it goes. did god create the universe no because its to damn dangerous. Entropy the universe is going to die
all life is going to die before or just eventually will die due to entropy.

The one answer in the "atheistic science" that's required: 2nd law of thermodynamics.
That's where the universe came from.... that's where it will go.

(December 11, 2014 at 9:28 am)pocaracas Wrote: The one answer in the "atheistic science" that's required: 2nd law of thermodynamics.
That's where the universe came from.... that's where it will go.

exactly also why call it athestic science?
its just science i hate it theists calls it atheistic science.
then they try to use pseudo science or theist science its laughable that they come up with some of the most asinine theory's and equations.

(December 11, 2014 at 9:33 am)dyresand Wrote: exactly also why call it athestic science?

Because it doesn't sound as goofy as "satanistic science," which is what they really mean to say.

Their trying to equate science with religion, to make out both require faith. And they take advantage of the honesty of science that admits we don't have all knowledge, or even certainty about what we claim as knowledge, to claim victory through their arrogant statements of certainty.

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Also, they don't know what science is. Not many theists seem to have the first clue about what it is, and why it's essential to making progress.

(December 11, 2014 at 9:42 am)robvalue Wrote: Their trying to equate science with religion, to make out both require faith. And they take advantage of the honesty of science that admits we don't have all knowledge, or even certainty about what we claim as knowledge, to claim victory through their arrogant statements of certainty.

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Also, they don't know what science is. Not many theists seem to have the first clue about what it is, and why it's essential to making progress.

the eventuality will come because science is growing fast even though the dark ages tried to stomp it out our progress is catching up faster and faster.

(December 11, 2014 at 1:15 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 6:38 am)Pablo Wrote: I don't know. You don't either.
That doesn't mean a god did it.

That doesn’t mean investigators of the past lack the evidence to determine with confidence what happened. In fact that‘s what historical scientists do like cosmologists, archeologists, geologists, archeologists, paleontologists; they gather clues or evidence left behind to make inferences.

Yep, and what they've never found is god's finger prints on any of the planetary marbles. They discover what happened but never any grand intentioner.

You can go on wiki'ing up little blurbs of science. But the same details that lead you to praise god are simply interesting and sometimes awe inspiring. There is no reason to think anything in the past happened expressly to bring about a present to support us. The universe isn't all about us.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:17 am)whateverist Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 1:15 am)snowtracks Wrote: That doesn’t mean investigators of the past lack the evidence to determine with confidence what happened. In fact that‘s what historical scientists do like cosmologists, archeologists, geologists, archeologists, paleontologists; they gather clues or evidence left behind to make inferences.

Yep, and what they've never found is god's finger prints on any of the planetary marbles. They discover what happened but never any grand intentioner.

You can go on wiki'ing up little blurbs of science. But the same details that lead you to praise god are simply interesting and sometimes awe inspiring. There is no reason to think anything in the past happened expressly to bring about a present to support us. The universe isn't all about us.

Grand scheme of things were lucky to be alive our existence can be gone in the blink of and eye. We are lucky to be alive on a planet that is good enough for life but when you look at it were just smaller than a dust particle to the universe in whole and we pretty much as a species are nothing compared to the larger image of things. and it is quite well ridiculous to call humanity special when we are just lucky to be alive. so the aforementioned god created everything forgot well shit entropy if there was a god he would stop it.

Rampantly anthropocentric:

Look, we're here, therefore god. Man is different than the animals, therefore god. Oh? We're not quite so different? But see the earth is at center of universe, therefore god. Oh? We're not at the center of the universe? Well we are on the only planet that can support life, therefore god. We're not the only planet that can support life? We'll if you changed this universe, there could be no life, therefore god.

They all share the fundamental flaw that just because you are here does not mean here was made for you. Even if the chances of here being the way it is are astronomical, you could still only ponder the question if this number came up. Quite simply, we're here, therefore us.