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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 10:57 am
(January 1, 2015 at 10:47 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (December 29, 2014 at 11:43 am)Spooky Wrote: To any religion? Short of god himself descending from heaven in front of you (even hardcore believers aren't holding their breath).
For myself I'd say god has his/her work cut out. It would probably require altering my ability to exercise free will. Most religions have too many hypocritical practices and texts for me to buy into the bs.
There is a further question if you're a theist. We'll give your intelligence the benifet of the doubt and ask why you still believe with all the evidence against the bible/torah/whatever?
With all the "proof" and "case" threads going on that are either trolls or actually trying convert a few of us, I'm curious.
What will it take?
I want to know everything satan knew at the time of his fall from heaven.
He must have some serious dirt on yahweh and smart enough to get a third of the population of god world as an life insurance policy..
Quite an observation. Fair enough.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 10:15 am)Spooky Wrote: The difference between god and ISIS is that ISIS exists.
Edit: And they're more than happy to prove it.
So you are telling me when people all over this forum make statements like 'if' God were real or proved himself, or if i died and found out he was real, i will mock him and refuse to worship him in though that means going to hell.
You are saying they are lying. Richard Dawkins says this in all his speeches though.You are saying he is lying and every other atheist who continue to post that in this thread?
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 12:34 pm
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(January 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm)subsecret Wrote: (January 1, 2015 at 10:15 am)Spooky Wrote: The difference between god and ISIS is that ISIS exists.
Edit: And they're more than happy to prove it.
So you are telling me when people all over this forum make statements like 'if' God were real or proved himself, or if i died and found out he was real, i will mock him and refuse to worship him in though that means going to hell.
You are saying they are lying. Richard Dawkins says this in all his speeches though.You are saying he is lying and every other atheist who continue to post that in this thread?
"If" is a bridge. It's an attempt to not dismiss your bs completely in the interest of possibly carrying on a decent conversation. It is not always successful. The other atheists are not lying, just using the common language.
Edit: meh, poor example.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 12:58 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm)subsecret Wrote: So you are telling me when people all over this forum make statements like 'if' God were real or proved himself, or if i died and found out he was real, i will mock him and refuse to worship him in though that means going to hell.
You're packing several vastly different assumptions into one little neat package that suits your generalising purpose.
First, there are three different premises of the same Abrahamic god that propose three sets of dogmas. And then there are thousands of different understandings of the same god within christianity. For us, I think I can speak for the majority, they are equally unbelievable, since a real almighty being would have made itself known across the board and without the shadow of a doubt.
Instead we have the total absence of evidence and vastly different accounts that only rely on one book, written thousands of years ago. And it's that particular god with his very human vices, genocidal tendencies and bigoted mindset that I wouldn't worship even if it was real. Worship requires respect and the being as described in the bible is worthy of contempt.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 5:02 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 10:04 am)subsecret Wrote: Here's the contradiction i'm confused about.
How come atheists would say if God were real and appeared to them or if they died and were brought into the presense of God. As I do not believe in gods, ghosts, goblins, elves, trolls, vampyres, faeries, etc., I would have to assume that any entity that confronted me is either a liar or if it can perform real magic, then a figment of delusion.
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 5:10 pm
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(January 1, 2015 at 10:04 am)subsecret Wrote: This is what i call internet warriors and false bravery in RL.
The internet warrior says after every tragedy, if there were a gunman they would rush him immediately.
Yet in reality they would freeze with fear in the moment. -said the internet warrior.
Go fuck yourself, hooah?
Quote:We fear men with knifes, staves and guns who can water-board us in their presence.
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Quote:Yet we speak lightly on the existence of a creator peradventure he was true, who could do anything to you.
That's why i take these posts with a grain of salt because Its called pride.
"If you say mean things god will hurt you hard". 
-No...no, wait, apparently the proper response is 
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RE: What will it take to convert you?
January 1, 2015 at 9:54 pm
(January 1, 2015 at 10:04 am)subsecret Wrote: Here's the contradiction i'm confused about.
How come atheists would say if God were real and appeared to them or if they died and were brought into the presense of God.
They would curse and spite in his face. yet they won't do that if they were brought into the presense of ISIS? Well, Isis was a pretty hot chick. Mind you, if she was one of those girls that wants guys to, you know... "spit in her face" then I guess we can reach an accommodation.
As for the first part, most atheists will say that because the god that they are often being told about meeting comes off like a boorish jerk at best, and a sadistic doucheturd the rest of the time. Being cursed and spit at is the nicest thing that he should expect. But since that asshole can't possibly exist, I don't think it's much of a concern.
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