(January 5, 2015 at 5:00 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So, alpha, you gonna answer my question?

Define "sex addict" and sure, I'll answer it.

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(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Right. You can't understand. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

What reasons make it right for anyone?

(January 5, 2015 at 5:02 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: All that I bolded imply existing negative issues or addictions.

I'd say old men paying young women to rub up against them is an existing negative issue.

Quote:Are men, by their very nature, sex addicts?

People, by their very nature, are coveters.

That's not what I asked. As long as agreements within relationships are honored, what's the issue? Also, please cite your sources that humans are "coveters".

Admit it: you think your idea of a healthy relationship is the only right one. Why is anyone supposed to take your advice? If "alternative" relationships work for others, who are you to tell them to do them otherwise?

(January 5, 2015 at 5:07 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 5:00 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So, alpha, you gonna answer my question?

Define "sex addict" and sure, I'll answer it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_addiction

Boy, that was tough.

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(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Right. You can't understand. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

What reasons make it right for anyone?

Whatever they want their reasons to be. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

(January 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ah, so your idea of a relationship is just superior.

Yes, a relationship in which two people are focused mentally and physically only on each other is better. That's the point of a romantic relationship. People can have other types of arrangements which allow for mental or physical attention to outside parties, but the fact is that by so doing they've weakened the relationship.

According to you.

(January 5, 2015 at 5:13 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_addiction

Boy, that was tough.

Then the answer is no.

Quote:Whatever they want their reasons to be. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

What are the reasons?

(January 5, 2015 at 4:33 pm)alpha male Wrote: Men can avoid sexual temptation by avoiding strip clubs. Problem drinkers can avoid bars. Dieters can refrain from keeping junk food in the house. Problem gamblers can avoid casinos, or self-ban themselves in some states. This is simple, common-sense stuff. It's amusing to see some of you fight it.

Let's take this and run with it, shall we?

Drinking, gambling, going to strip clubs. All behaviors that can be problematic, to be sure.

It appears to be your contention that one partner going to strip clubs is in and of itself unfaithful. What about the others?

Let's do a thought experiment.

Couple A: One partner has a substance abuse problem, and it is an agreed parameter that said partner will stay sober and will stay out of bars.

Couple B: One partner has a gambling problem, and it likewise is an agreed parameter that said partner will not gamble or go into gambling establishments.

Couple C: One partner has a problem with sexual infidelity, and has agreed to stay out of strip clubs and not solicit lap dances.

Couple D: Both partners agree that neither has a problem with substance abuse, gambling, or sexual fidelity, and that drinking, gambling, and going to strip clubs is explicitly agreeable behavior within the relationship.

I would submit that infidelity occurs when the partner in Couple A drinks or frequents bars, the partner in Couple B gambles or goes into a casino, or the partner in Couple C goes into a strip club for whatever reason.

On the other hand, I submit that infidelity does *not* occur if a partner in Couple D does any of those same things - because those behaviors are mutually, and explicitly agreeable to both parties.

It isn't the behavior per se that indicates infidelity, it's the behavior when judged against the agreement between the two parties that does. You're trying to insert your own idea of what's best, what's moral, and what's infidelity or not where it's not your business.

(January 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: According to you.

According to the concept of romantic relationship.

TIL alpha knows what's best for other peoples' relationships, and anything else is just inferior.

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(January 5, 2015 at 5:20 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 5:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: According to you.

According to the concept of romantic relationship.

According to your definition of a romantic relationship.

(January 5, 2015 at 5:20 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: According to your definition of a romantic relationship.

According to most people's definition.

Face it, most people think that getting married means giving up outside emotional and/or physical romances.

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(January 5, 2015 at 5:19 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: On the other hand, I submit that infidelity does *not* occur if a partner in Couple D does any of those same things - because those behaviors are mutually, and explicitly agreeable to both parties.

If the couple is married, and depending on what's going on at the strip club, it's still infidelity. You can't simply agree your way out of it.

The point of a relationship is to be close. Open relationship is a bit of an oxymoron.