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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 5:39 am
(January 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm)JuliaL Wrote: (January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Lying isn't a power, it's the result of one not using their brain.
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I don't agree that lying is the result of not using one's brain. Some lies take lots of creativity and planning and maintaining them is so intellectually difficult that the benefits aren't generally worth the effort.
Seems to me you are agreeing. Who with a brain wants to go through such gymnastics.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 5:44 am
If you really want to know how powerful God is, there is only one way to find out. Look at the evidence:
http://youtu.be/JDPG3gwGFbM
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 5:50 am
(January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (January 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: You will always be able to choose God and the salvation that comes through Christ. Here's the question you should be asking, do I want to change the destination I was born to, all are born without salvation and that's something you can change.
I'm pretty sure I know what you're try to get at and you should look at this situation you think you can't change in this way, God knows your eternal destination and for all you know it's heaven.
So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination? Kind of like living life like a puppet and being forced to live a life you don't want.
You don't see the contradiction, do you?
No!
You were born into a world of sin, made by man, you have a choice to continue to live in it or be holy as God is holy.
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Do you desire to be a puppet, do you desire to make your own choices, do you want to be forced to live a life you don't want?
Quote:I will agree with you that if your god exists then it has my destination all figured out and I am doing/acting exactly as planned. Like a puppet, wouldn't you agree?
I would say less than intelligent.
Quote:more then half my life is over now and I never believed your god exists. Are you suggesting it, god, will reveal itself to me in my last years and change my mind?
Your life could be 99.9% over. You can never tell?
Quote:Why do you think I have the power to over right your omnipotent gods decision? Thought your god never changes?
God doesn't decide your eternal destination, you do. He doesn't, He's the same eternally.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 6:19 am
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2015 at 6:56 am by h4ym4n.)
(January 6, 2015 at 5:50 am)Godschild Wrote: (January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote: So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination? Kind of like living life like a puppet and being forced to live a life you don't want.
You don't see the contradiction, do you?
No!
You were born into a world of sin, made by man, you have a choice to continue to live in it or be holy as God is holy.
Quote:Godschild Wrote:
Do you desire to be a puppet, do you desire to make your own choices, do you want to be forced to live a life you don't want?
Quote:I will agree with you that if your god exists then it has my destination all figured out and I am doing/acting exactly as planned. Like a puppet, wouldn't you agree?
I would say less than intelligent.
Quote:more then half my life is over now and I never believed your god exists. Are you suggesting it, god, will reveal itself to me in my last years and change my mind?
Your life could be 99.9% over. You can never tell?
Quote:Why do you think I have the power to over right your omnipotent gods decision? Thought your god never changes?
God doesn't decide your eternal destination, you do. He doesn't, He's the same eternally.
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Did God know before I was conceived if I'm going to heaven or hell?
Yes or no?
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 10:06 am
(January 6, 2015 at 5:39 am)Godschild Wrote: (January 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm)JuliaL Wrote: I don't agree that lying is the result of not using one's brain. Some lies take lots of creativity and planning and maintaining them is so intellectually difficult that the benefits aren't generally worth the effort.
Seems to me you are agreeing. Who with a brain wants to go through such gymnastics.
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Lying is a power if your lying for a god who is in of itself of a bronze age lie to begin with. Ill use the theist classic disproving string of words you weren't there so how do you know it to be true. (sarcasm) because the bible is 100% the truth and a message from god even with evidence contrary to the fact it was just made up.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 10:09 am
(January 6, 2015 at 5:50 am)Godschild Wrote: (January 3, 2015 at 8:43 am)h4ym4n Wrote: So you are saying god intentionally creates humans with a hell destination? Kind of like living life like a puppet and being forced to live a life you don't want.
You don't see the contradiction, do you?
No!
You were born into a world of sin, made by man, you have a choice to continue to live in it or be holy as God is holy.
Quote:Godschild Wrote:
Do you desire to be a puppet, do you desire to make your own choices, do you want to be forced to live a life you don't want?
Quote:I will agree with you that if your god exists then it has my destination all figured out and I am doing/acting exactly as planned. Like a puppet, wouldn't you agree?
I would say less than intelligent.
Quote:more then half my life is over now and I never believed your god exists. Are you suggesting it, god, will reveal itself to me in my last years and change my mind?
Your life could be 99.9% over. You can never tell?
Quote:Why do you think I have the power to over right your omnipotent gods decision? Thought your god never changes?
God doesn't decide your eternal destination, you do. He doesn't, He's the same eternally.
GC
Did I just see you say that your all powerful god doesn't know something?
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 11:09 am
My orange still isn't peeled i asked god politely and well its going to get moldy.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 11:21 am
(January 6, 2015 at 11:09 am)dyresand Wrote: My orange still isn't peeled i asked god politely and well its going to get moldy.
God ignored your request, but you should take the lifeforms growing on the orange as evidence of his greatness.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 11:24 am
God doesn't know if I'm going to heaven or hell then? He doesn't know everything after all. I have the power to break his plan.
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RE: How powerful is god?
January 6, 2015 at 11:28 am
(January 6, 2015 at 11:24 am)robvalue Wrote: God doesn't know if I'm going to heaven or hell then? He doesn't know everything after all. I have the power to break his plan.
I feel a GC checkmate is just around the corner.
Wonder if he's waiting on jesus to get back to him with the proper reply?
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