(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 11:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, sure. I know what you mean, the law can be an absolute bastard. It's a shame that you ever have to force parents to stop their kid from dying. It makes me angry to think of those fuck head parents at home, making excuses for why God is still all loving even though he gave their kid a fatal disease. Some people have a pretty low bar for "love".

"Oh well, it's part of god's plan." No it isn't. It was your plan to refuse treatment because you are a terrible parent, putting superstition ahead of your child's life. The very worst thing is that this is what happens when you take Christianity seriously instead of just playing at it like most people do.

what makes me sick are self righteous people who only think of themselves and not what someone who is enduring pain for a furture of sickness and pain, all for their own sense of bent/warped 'morality.'

My hope for you is if you are ever in a situation like that, that soceity demands that you be made to stay alive no matter what. That way you can live out your 'morality' with pride.

I'm not going to argue with this, because you can't argue with stupid. I shall therefore simply say, go fuck yourself you ignorant festering polyp on the anus of humanity.

Adds nothing to the discussion but it slightly mitigates the nausea I experienced reading your brain fart of a post.

Yeah, thanks for that Drich. Wishing pain and suffering on people seems to be your natural gift. Along with mister whack-a-kid you're helping our cause more than any atheist could.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote: what makes me sick are self righteous people who only think of themselves and not what someone who is enduring pain for a furture of sickness and pain, all for their own sense of bent/warped 'morality.'

My hope for you is if you are ever in a situation like that, that soceity demands that you be made to stay alive no matter what. That way you can live out your 'morality' with pride.

Good because that's Christianity is filled with self righteous people.
For one why let a child die :face-palm: because who knows you don't know if the child is going to get cancer again your not omniscient.

Read the story again sport.

I'm not Omniscient but God/Jesus is.. What is this story about? Jesus talking to a little girl, the little girl opting out. What do you think Jesus told her?

(January 21, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 12:27 pm)dyresand Wrote: Those numbers are crap? i mean that is a 11 year old child and she hasn't fully experienced life.

Keep going drysand your almost there...

If her life is nothing but needles Chemo, radition, and isolation wards till the cancer over takes her... when is it in your great and well expressed opinion that she will get to 'experience life?'

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(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I'd like to see 'parental negligence/stupidity' and a percentage of causes for child deaths. That poor kid.

Your poor parents...

That's that thing young children shouldn't die it doesn't matter what belief sets they have or the parent's have you only get 1 life and everyone has a chance to live a life they should have the right to live. Though it was her parents who should be facing some charges because that girl had a chance to life a high chance to live life let her die should be jailed.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm)Drich Wrote: nope. What I am saying was maybe 'Jesus' gave her a glimps of the future and she decided to go home sooner rather than later.

Which would mean she willfully sped up her own death, which I believe is a little thing called suicide, that's a sin in your religion, is it not?

Oh, probably not; after all, disagreeing with what I just said would be convenient to your argument, so no doubt you'll say just about anything for that.

By the way, isn't it generally the christian way to oppose voluntary euthanasia, too?

(January 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm)Drich Wrote: oh, the irony...

What makes you think the parents were ignorant? Because you read an artical from some blog and think you have a full understanding of what is going on? Again I showed that her numbers per the artical were doctored... which means you do not even have an accurate view of her situation let alone enough info to judge those who did. That my friend is true ignorance.

If her parents and the doctors let her make this choice it was because a real recovery or real life was not likly.

The doctors and parents don't seem to see eye-to-eye on it.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote: nope. What I am saying was maybe 'Jesus' gave her a glimps of the future and she decided to go home sooner rather than later.

And maybe he didn't. Maybe it was just a dream. If he's going to hand out prophetic dreams, maybe he should target the doctors treating her.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Drich Wrote: Because we have been tasked to seek and save the fat and faithless from themselves.

She obviously didn't feel that task. Isn't refusing treatment for a very treatable disease along the lines of intentionally letting yourself die? Doesn't seem very 'up to the task'.

Again if the story was about Jesus talking to a little girl in a dream and she opts out, I would think (and I'm no expert because in my dream He sent me to Hell) Jesus allowed her to opt out and come home early.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 12:30 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: She obviously didn't feel that task. Isn't refusing treatment for a very treatable disease along the lines of intentionally letting yourself die? Doesn't seem very 'up to the task'.

Again if the story was about Jesus talking to a little girl in a dream and she opts out, I would think (and I'm no expert because in my dream He sent me to Hell) Jesus allowed her to opt out and come home early.

Ahh, so God can make loopholes to his own rules on a whim. Sounds good.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:15 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(January 21, 2015 at 12:13 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Why don't more Christians take their own life then?

exactly and even if suicide is a sin its forgivable like every other sin in the bible. so if there is a heaven you can just repent your sin to jesus and well go into heaven.

Repent your sin after you're dead and know which God or gods you're dealing with and which sect was the correct one? That sounds fairly sensible, justice-wise.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm not Omniscient but God/Jesus is..

Name dropping fallacy.

(January 21, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Drich Wrote: What is this story about? Jesus talking to a little girl, the little girl opting out. What do you think Jesus told her?

Umm .. do you actually think she was speaking with Jesus. I doubt if even a majority of the sane Christians in the world (provided we can find them) believe that. Your opinion is now officially irrelevant.