(January 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm)Lek Wrote:

(January 28, 2015 at 8:32 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: I find that hard to believe. Just to prove that you really did get our point, would you mind explaining our point to us?

You believe that this life is our only existence, therefore, it is of the highest moral imperative to live as long as possible. You will go through whatever it takes to prolong it because there is nothing else. I understand and respect your point of view based upon your beliefs.

No, the point was that children who do not have the wisdom and life experience to make these decisions rely on responsible adults to keep them from making medical decisions which are in fact suicidal. These parents are using religion to justify a decision which directly resulted in their child's death although the young girl wanted to live.

As an aside, are you for or against women having the right to abortion?

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(January 29, 2015 at 8:04 am)robvalue Wrote: I guess it's god's idea of a "blessing".

Fixed, by order of Drich.

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(January 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm)dyresand Wrote: Moderates are just as bad as the evangelicals.

I completely disagree.

(January 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm)robvalue Wrote: They ignore the bible.

Not always, but quite often.

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(January 29, 2015 at 1:20 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: As an aside, are you for or against women having the right to abortion?

I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

Rather not explain why thats fucking stupid ill post this instead.

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

Interesting response, what makes a fetus "healthy", and would you support aborting an "unhealthy" one?

(January 29, 2015 at 2:18 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

Interesting response, what makes a fetus "healthy", and would you support aborting an "unhealthy" one?

I believe that guys should not act on womans rights against abortion.
if a woman wants to evacuate a fetus let her we have no control over a woman's body and or actions she can do what ever the hell she wants. I am not prolife by any means because if i was prolife i would be pro idiot.
Because rather than having to explain why there are certain things to take into consideration Lek a woman has a life percentage she could possibly die when giving birth and lets say it was a high one rather than letting her die because the fetus is healthy let her live her own life. Heck i would want to live to no little baby is taking me down so it can live nu uh i maybe selfish in that matter but everyone has a right to live even if it means aborting a fetus that can potentially kill you.

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

How do you reconcile this contradiction in your positions, that a mother cannot abort her fetus, but she can send her born child to her death? I think you're going to try and wedge your point with that qualifier "health", so let me ask you the obvious follow up: if you support aborting "unhealthy" fetuses, what is the difference between you and someone who supports eugenics?

(January 29, 2015 at 2:35 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

How do you reconcile this contradiction in your positions, that a mother cannot abort her fetus, but she can send her born child to her death?

That is the is the issue i have with it... because if giving birth to a child and it could possibly kill you and a doctor pretty much gives you a warning you can deliver it but.. what would be the point because that child is going to come into this world without a mom that.. is just sad.

(January 29, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe women have no right under God to abort a healthy fetus, even though they do under current law.

So I guess you intend to take care of the kid? Damn, you must have a lot of kids. Kudos.

Wow. So you must not abort, but once it's born, you can just smother it with a pillow because it doesn't matter if you live 5 second or 100 years. It goes straight to heaven, and then you just cash in that "jesus died for my sin" voucher and you're golden.

By the way, by appealing to "under God" and such, you're entirely abandoning your own morality and going just by another party's judgement. You are passing the buck, but not to God, but to the people who presume to speak for god. I'd really like to know what people's own opinions are, not what they think their religion wants them to do.

(January 29, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Lek Wrote:

(January 29, 2015 at 11:31 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: That's why I was wishing for an Episcopelian, Thackerie. Or maybe a Methodist. I guess I get why we get the evangelicals, but sometimes I wish mainstream Christianity had some representation here.

What is it that you think separates "mainstream" christianity from evangelical christianity?

Common sense.