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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 1, 2015 at 7:43 pm
(February 1, 2015 at 7:08 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The atheist credo is: an universe by chance which also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
There is no atheist credo.
(February 1, 2015 at 7:08 pm)snowtracks Wrote: A better explanation: ‘In the beginning God created the heavens and earth’.
Once you get over the intellectual hurdle ‘Who created God’ question, the better explanation is obvious.
It can hardly be a better explanation if the explanation itself needs explanation.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 1, 2015 at 7:48 pm
(February 1, 2015 at 7:08 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The atheist credo is: an universe by chance which also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
It's not chance, Mister Strawman. If I thought you capable of being fucking educated, I'd explain it to you, but then, I've done it before, so you're literally just lying like the deplorable little shit that you are, right now.
Quote:A better explanation: ‘In the beginning God created the heavens and earth’.
Just because you really really want it to be true, doesn't make it a better explanation.
Quote:Once you get over the intellectual hurdle ‘Who created God’ question, the better explanation is obvious.
Yes, I imagine you're right: if you just ignore the gaping, showstopping holes in an idea, then the idea has no holes. Great tautology, genius. 
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 3:32 pm
(February 1, 2015 at 7:48 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Quote:Once you get over the intellectual hurdle ‘Who created God’ question, the better explanation is obvious.
Yes, I imagine you're right: if you just ignore the gaping, showstopping holes in an idea, then the idea has no holes. Great tautology, genius.
But "get over the intellectual hurdle" sounds so much better than "special pleading" or "ad hoc assertion"!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm
So where are we, page 236 and snowtracks is still being intellectually dishonest both in his claims and his dismissal of others' retorts.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 4:59 pm
(February 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So where are we, page 236 and snowtracks is still being intellectually dishonest both in his claims and his dismissal of others' retorts.
Yeah. I told myself I was going to put him on ignore and move on with my life a couple of months ago, but I keep finding myself back here...
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm
(February 3, 2015 at 4:59 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: (February 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So where are we, page 236 and snowtracks is still being intellectually dishonest both in his claims and his dismissal of others' retorts.
Yeah. I told myself I was going to put him on ignore and move on with my life a couple of months ago, but I keep finding myself back here...
Me too. Flies to shit.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm
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This thread is the 8th wonder. 234 pages! For what!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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(February 3, 2015 at 4:59 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: Yeah. I told myself I was going to put him on ignore and move on with my life a couple of months ago, but I keep finding myself back here... It is like a car wreck. You just cannot help but look!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 3, 2015 at 9:35 pm
Odin ALLFather created it from nothing.
Christian origins delusions are wrong.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 4, 2015 at 1:17 am
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(February 1, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 7:08 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The atheist credo is: an universe by chance which also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
There is no atheist credo.
That's right. I have no more idea what aspects of the universe are random and which are necessary than Snowtracks. Chance has no place in my cosmology owing to my ignorance of what about the universe couldn't be otherwise. Snowtracks would have to admit to the same if he wasn't wed to playing the magic card. Me, I'm holding out for a natural account. Doesn't mean there has to be anything random about it.
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