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Atheism worships a dead god.
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Atheism worships a dead god.
We had a Christian troll of sorts who wanted to debate the atheists in the IRC. I started to respond but then realize, I'd rather be working on my Dragon*con schedule. The person was acting like a pain, stating practically everything I said was emotional. I told the person he/she is welcome to post the debate in the forums. The conversation amounted to this person making blanket statements, and claiming that any response we made was an emotional response, and then absconding after stating his/her conclusions. Granted I did kick the person a couple of times, but I was trying to get the Christian to go to the forums. :/ We haven't had a very dense theist for some time, figured you guys might like the fodder.

Here are a few of Aloah's statements:

Here is the convo in full:



Highlights:

<aloah>: what happens when you die?
<aloah>: why do you guys follow a dead-god called atheism?
<aloah>: it affects how you think...atheism affects how you act...atheism affects...what chat forum to go to....it affects your whole being.
<aloah>: conclusion: atheism is a religion in and of itself, you are the followers of atheism, (a dead god)

Thoughts? Maybe if the troll comes back we can point to this thread. Smile
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#2
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
My thoughts?

The idiot is just going to get banned.

(Yeah. I insulted "aloah". Do something.)
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#3
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
Well, it was in the chat where there are no rules, and aloah is not a member, so you have not broken any rule.

I agree eventually this person may have been banned, but sometimes the preachy trolls can be a little amusing before they fly off the handle and get banned. Smile

But I more posted this here in case anyone wanted a stab at tearing apart the statements, if this person ever does troll the chat again.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#4
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
Yes yes we worship the all mighty AthesTongue
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#5
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
Actually it's Atheos
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#6
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
Interesting how there are a lot of believers (of the more fundamentalist kind, practically all of them) who insist that EVERYONE "worships" something or other-- if not their one true god, then it must be one's own ego, or something. They can't conceive of a life that is not devoted to some "god" or other, even if it a false one.

This says more about the mindset of the believer than anything else: his/her perceived need to be connected to something assuring, granting some kind of security in a world that obviously grants no such guarantees. It all simply comes down to fear and insecurity. These are biological needs projected into the metaphysical-- or in more down-to-earth terms: wishful thinking (though the term "thought" may be debatable).


Also to add: Hence the obsession with a variety of syllogisms connecting a god to "morality"-- that god in question is supposed to be the believer's metaphysical guarantee that they are safe from harm. And the more insecure the believer, the more the outrage at those who don't believe the same thing (and consequently, the more fundamentalist they likely are to be).
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
(August 17, 2010 at 6:06 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Actually it's Atheos
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RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
(August 17, 2010 at 2:32 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: We had a Christian troll of sorts who wanted to debate the atheists in the IRC. I started to respond but then realize, I'd rather be working on my Dragon*con schedule. The person was acting like a pain, stating practically everything I said was emotional. I told the person he/she is welcome to post the debate in the forums. The conversation amounted to this person making blanket statements, and claiming that any response we made was an emotional response, and then absconding after stating his/her conclusions. Granted I did kick the person a couple of times, but I was trying to get the Christian to go to the forums. :/ We haven't had a very dense theist for some time, figured you guys might like the fodder.

Oh well, you know, crazy people and all.
They like to assume that because you've chosen not to debate and they're fired up get on their opressive master's good graces, that means you're avoiding him because you're wrong and won't engage him and not at all because you're doing something or whatever.

Classic troll psychology.

Not to sound like a 15 year old who thinks his parents hate him because he or she is 'too real' for decent clothing and studying, but many of those christian types just don't understand us or anything outside of the belief system they were indoctrinated into, much less the scientific explainations, ideas, and theories for all the things they tend to rally against.

Someone really should find some of the documentation on effective methods of de-brainwashing people and post them around here somewhere so when confronted by some of the more wingnutty theists, there might be some effective method of bringing... ... you know when you watch too much star trek when you almost unconciously say 'bringing order to chaos' but I'll actually say rationality to irrationality.

Of course, it's either that or fire, but I know I shouldn't solve all my problems with fire.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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#9
RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
I remember I used to go to xtian chat rooms in IRC and for them I was the troll. Big Grin I used to get kicked out of the room almost every time for trying to combat their fairy tales with rational statements. It was fun though, to read the crap they could come up with.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

Atheist I Evolved!
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RE: Atheism worships a dead god.
(August 18, 2010 at 11:58 pm)DiRNiS Wrote: I remember I used to go to xtian chat rooms in IRC and for them I was the troll. Big Grin I used to get kicked out of the room almost every time for trying to combat their fairy tales with rational statements. It was fun though, to read the crap they could come up with.

And what a big troll you are, for forcing Xtians to think Diablo Big Grin
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