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Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 12, 2015 at 12:54 am)Huggy74 Wrote: The story doesn't mention that she paid anyone, just "persuaded".

Jesus fuck! I'm quite certain you would have suffocated years ago if breathing wasn't involuntary.
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#42
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 12, 2015 at 6:34 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(March 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: Think what you want, it's fine with me.

GC

If that were true, I don't think you'd be here.

Eeeeeeexactly.
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#43
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#44
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: You might want to ask those who are violently murdered and their families why a barbaric act shouldn't draw the punishment equal to the crime.

Then again, you might not. Such people tend to have very emotional reactions to the question and seldom have the qualifications one would look for in appointing one to opine on such ethical and legal questions. No, I rather think it's a bad idea. And I rather suspect you only suggested it to make an appeal to emotion in lieu of a rational argument for said capital punishment. (Not to mention that asking the violently murdered is rather unproductive as they are dead.)
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#45
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
Cult thinking.
"Bake the children in the pies, sip the tea, watch your demise, tip your hat, don't be ashamed, we're all afraid"

"[God] sounds like an abusive lover, 'But dear, I wouldn't beat you if you didn't make me angry'" - Nope

My problem with religious people is not the fact that they hold the beliefs they do, my problem is when they claim that those beliefs make logical sense. If you wish to hold beliefs in fairy tales, that is fine with me. I still think you're silly, but that is fine. But the moment you claim that your views concerning those subjects can safely operate in any realm other than the realm of faith and/or fiction is the moment you deserve to be called on your bullshit.
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#46
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: You might want to ask those who are violently murdered and their families why a barbaric act shouldn't draw the punishment equal to the crime.

GC

Cheap and often heard appeal to emotions. Would I want to hurt someone, who's done something horrible to my loved ones? Sure. But a society shouldn't be about revenge killings. It's primitive, it's disgusting and it has no other purpose.

Again, either being a changed person matters under all circumstances and that would call for an evaluation of all inmates, regardless if they found Jesus or Mickey Mouse, or it doesn't. And on a side note, forensic science found out long ago that sociopaths are excellent manipulators and actors.

So again. I'm all for getting her off death row, but not for the reasons given.
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RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 13, 2015 at 12:24 am)rasetsu Wrote:
(March 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: You might want to ask those who are violently murdered and their families why a barbaric act shouldn't draw the punishment equal to the crime.

Then again, you might not. Such people tend to have very emotional reactions to the question and seldom have the qualifications one would look for in appointing one to opine on such ethical and legal questions. No, I rather think it's a bad idea. And I rather suspect you only suggested it to make an appeal to emotion in lieu of a rational argument for said capital punishment. (Not to mention that asking the violently murdered is rather unproductive as they are dead.)

Yes I know the dead can't answer us, at least directly, their lives could tell us if we look. My whole point was to get him to think about the situation if it were his family. There was a double murder here several years ago, it was as atrocious as one could imagine, no what they did was unimaginable. Almost everyone in this area thought the only punishment for the three men should have been death, some crimes are so awful they cry for equal punishment.

GC

(March 13, 2015 at 12:30 am)Delysid Wrote: Cult thinking.

If that's pointed at me you plain ignorant, I believed in the death penalty before I became a Christian.
Your thinking is stupid at best.

GC

(March 13, 2015 at 1:57 am)abaris Wrote:
(March 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: You might want to ask those who are violently murdered and their families why a barbaric act shouldn't draw the punishment equal to the crime.

GC

Again, either being a changed person matters under all circumstances and that would call for an evaluation of all inmates, regardless if they found Jesus or Mickey Mouse, or it doesn't. And on a side note, forensic science found out long ago that sociopaths are excellent manipulators and actors.

Meaning they are completely useless to society, will use it for their own wicked desires, why should we keep them alive to bleed down society.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#48
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#49
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(March 12, 2015 at 6:34 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: If that were true, I don't think you'd be here.

I did not come here to convert any members, but is it happens, great!

GC

Never said you were hear to convert anyone. From your attitude, I figured you were here to gloat from your self-perceived higher position.
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#50
RE: Death row inmate "finds Christ" and might be released
(March 14, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: Meaning they are completely useless to society, will use it for their own wicked desires, why should we keep them alive to bleed down society.

GC

Nice christian sentiment. And you keep wondering why we don't buy what you're selling?
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