I apologies to everyone for failing to contain the oddity known as Riketto in the "If" thread.

Oh, so it was you who left the thread door open! Tsk tsk tsk.

Jokes aside, I am in awe of your patience and determination. You've managed to keep him in there for quite some time. You should get a medal or something.

I assumed he was being paid :p

I wished

Is it too late ask for a monetary reward?

You're due some serious back pay including danger money.

I realized that being a theist is actually pretty meaningless. It means you believe in some sort of God, and God can be anything. I can say my table is God. So being a theist means you believe in something.

(March 27, 2015 at 1:35 pm)robvalue Wrote: Rik: you're asking me to disprove unfalsifiable propositions. Do you understand that is ridiculous? If not, there is no point discussing further. Please ask if you don't understand what I'm asking.

Garbage.
As i already explained to brother surgen in the if forum there is an important difference between my saying............I BELIEVE THAT SUCH A THING IS TRUE and saying.....THAT THING IS TRUE BECAUSE I SAY SO.
Therefore there is also a difference between me saying.......I BELIEVE...... and YOUR stating that karma and reincarnation are all bullshit.
I do not state while you do therefore i do not have come up with evidence that my saying is true.
You on the other hand STATE something therefore YOU have to come up with evidence.
Even a demented idiot would understand straight away this simple truth but of course you understood it Rob.
Did you rob, after all you are not idiot, isn't it rob?

Really. Well have fun with that.

(March 27, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Thackerie Wrote: hurling nasty shit at us for our own good.[/i]

Actually i did put it in a polite way unlike you that come down with all sort of offensive language and profanity.
I only asked you to give me evidence when you state or you agree with those who state that there is no karma (action and reaction) and reincarnation.
If you can't then i will have to deduce that what you guys say is a load o'crap.

By the way thack, if you rely on the support that your friends can give you think again.
I already knocked them down before when they fail to prove that man is omnivore and other things so if you can is much better that you rely on your own intellect but to do this you will have to state only what can be proved not on your fantasies.

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(March 28, 2015 at 3:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Really. Well have fun with that.

Is this an abandon of the fight or just pretend that you are right when in fact you are not in a position to reply?
Very interesting rob.

Now that's an interesting approach. "If I just say that I believe, I don't have to prove what I say." In a way, that is religion in a nutshell.

(March 28, 2015 at 9:48 pm)Tonus Wrote: Now that's an interesting approach.  "If I just say that I believe, I don't have to prove what I say."  In a way, that is religion in a nutshell.

You guys don't even prove anything after you state something.
To state means to give a validity to the confirmation that what you say is true.
On the other hand the believe relate to a personal point of view.
Why do i give a personal point of view and not a validation about what i do believe?
Suppose i say that man is not omnivore because it doesn't have the claws to knock down a pray.
You may say that humans in the beginning had big claws but as the time passes they lost their claws
nevertheless he born with the claws so he is omnivore.
In this way the argument can go on and on for ever and everybody keep their point of view.
The same apply with God.
I say what make sense to me and you say the contrary so everybody keep his believe or not believe.
I don't think that in this universe there is a single thing that can be prove without any doubt.
How it is possible considering that what is true today will be discarded in the rubbish bin of history tomorrow?
Even the evidence that God exist can only be found within and i found it but physical evidence is not possible
as God is not a physical entity so to speak that is why i can not
state that God exist in a way that you can understand.