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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
March 19, 2015 at 5:37 am
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(March 12, 2015 at 2:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: Okay, but let's don't forget, he did sign the check. Paid himself, did he?
Or are you implying that it was okay for the filmmaker to deliberately misrepresent Krauss, because he paid him first? Mind you, it's not something I would put past a Christian, but it's refreshing to see one admit it on occasion.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
March 19, 2015 at 5:40 am
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Christians have an omnipotent God on their side. Atheists have... nothing, apparently.
So why are the christians having to be dishonest all the time just to keep up with us? You think God would throw his boys a bone.
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March 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm
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(March 19, 2015 at 1:24 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: I didn't say it was eternal.
The universe exists outside the itself. Therefore it is outside of space and time doesn't require a beginning. No, I said that wrong. I meant it doesn't obviously need a cause temporally or atemporally prior to it's beginning. It could be uncaused since the first premise of the Kalam is not supported.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 4, 2015 at 10:44 pm
(March 16, 2015 at 1:22 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What evidence do you have to support the claim a mind can create things out of "nothing?"
Well, let's stated this way: God's capabilities are at least ∞^7 greater than ours. And the natural realm is limited to a first-order infinity.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 4, 2015 at 11:07 pm
(April 4, 2015 at 10:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (March 16, 2015 at 1:22 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What evidence do you have to support the claim a mind can create things out of "nothing?"
Well, let's stated this way: God's capabilities are at least ∞^7 greater than ours. And the natural realm is limited to a first-order infinity.
How about trying to answer the questions instead of asserting something else.
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April 4, 2015 at 11:34 pm
Interesting how a creationist has no problem pulling a number out of his ass to assess the relative magnitude of our human capabilities relative to those of God. Something tells me it isn't because Snowy is a mega-mental freak compared to the rest of us. More likely he is more practiced and therefore adept at pulling shit out of his ass. At least he seems content to restrict himself to throwing it around this thread now.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 4, 2015 at 11:51 pm
(April 4, 2015 at 10:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (March 16, 2015 at 1:22 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What evidence do you have to support the claim a mind can create things out of "nothing?"
Well, let's stated this way: God's capabilities are at least ∞^7 greater than ours. And the natural realm is limited to a first-order infinity.
How did you determine any of that? 
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 5, 2015 at 1:06 am
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(April 4, 2015 at 10:44 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (March 16, 2015 at 1:22 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What evidence do you have to support the claim a mind can create things out of "nothing?"
Well, let's stated this way: God's capabilities are at least ∞^7 greater than ours. And the natural realm is limited to a first-order infinity.
I have disproved god can be all powerful already. god cannot have infinite power it doesn't exist.
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April 5, 2015 at 5:19 am
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He can't be all that powerful, he can't even convince me he exists at all.
Even bacteria can do that.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
April 5, 2015 at 8:09 am
(April 4, 2015 at 11:34 pm)whateverist Wrote: Interesting how a creationist has no problem pulling a number out of his ass Maybe they can clear enough room to blow Jesus out of it. 
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