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Fucking Cops
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All right!  We got ourselves another psychoslice!  Clap
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Quote: And I wonder what the cop would have sounded like if that guy burned down a school with all the children in it, or blew his partners brains out.

We aren't going to know, are we?  Since he just ran him over.  Funny that the guy tailing the "suspect" did not feel compelled to take action against this one-man crime wave, though.  He doesn't seem to have been terribly worried.


Meanwhile, back in NYC the police department has a problem with racist cops.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/nypd-...-comments/


Quote:NYPD officials embarrassed and powerless as cop blog fills up with disturbing racist comments

But I'm sure these fuckers treat all citizens equally.
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(April 16, 2015 at 6:30 pm)IATIA Wrote: All right!  We got ourselves another psychoslice!  Clap

Your statement just demonstrated your complete ignorance on my position and I highly doubt you've read much of this thread. Otherwise you would know that I was the one who would most often call psychoslice out. If you had bothered to properly read my comments, you would know that I didn't condone the officers actions. Don't put Min up on a pedastal where everyone who disagrees with him is branded stupid or a troll.
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(April 16, 2015 at 2:14 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(April 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But at the moment that Officer Crash decided to run him over he was walking away and not pointing the rifle at anyone.  Where is the imminent threat of harm which justifies deadly force?

Well he is holding a gun, all he needs to do is raise his arm and twitch his finger and someone dies. And I'm sure the police would have been blamed for handling it badly if that had happened. Is deadly force only justified if he was pointing the gun at you? He was acting irratic and there was no telling what he was gunna do. I think when you get to the point of walking down the street, rifle in hand, aiming at yourself and other people and shooting into the air, you kind of deserve to get by a car. At least no one else got hurt.



Quote:  Cops cannot do whatever the fuck they want to do.  I hope you realize that?

No shit, you wanna be any more patronizing?
 He was acting crazy, so he should be hit by a car at 40 mph and possibly killed because he MIGHT hurt someone? WOW, That is crazy. If it's okay to run the guy down when he  is walking away  then it's okay to shoot him in the back, right? He ran the guy down as the guy was walking away. that is bullshit. I can't agree with you, the cop should be fired. period!!!!!!
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Quote:“It’s very disturbing stuff. Outrageous stuff,” said Stephen Davis, the chief spokesman for the NYPD. “We see it. It’s a problem.”

Yeah, it's a problem because you gave your cops a mouthpiece and now it's out in the open. I'm sure they'll just get a pat on the back and be told to try to keep it to themselves.
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(April 17, 2015 at 10:43 am)Manowar Wrote: He was acting crazy, so he should be hit by a car at 40 mph and possibly killed because he MIGHT hurt someone?
Correction, might kill, lots of people.

Quote: WOW, That is crazy. If it's okay to run the guy down when he  is walking away
I never said it was ok.

Quote:  then it's okay to shoot him in the back, right? He ran the guy down as the guy was walking away. that is bullshit. I can't agree with you,

And what would you be saying, I wonder, if when the cops had the chance to take him out, but didn't and he went on to walk into a school and kill fifty kids? It's easy to criticize but the world isn't as black and white as you would like it to be. I've already stated that the incident wasn't handled as well as it could have been, but considering what could have happened, how many people could have died, it wasn't a terrible outcome. What made this worse was the guy was unpredictable, he could have turned around and shot at the approaching police car, he could have broken into a home and taken them hostage. I was never defending the officer, just stating that I don't care that this guy got run over, and the outcome wasn't as bad as it could have been.

Quote: the cop should be fired. period!!!!!!

Yes he should, but I think that's all that needs to happen.
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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Officer Crash has a history.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/arizo...oking-man/


Quote:Arizona officer who drove into suspect was previously accused of choking man




Quote:While working for the NYPD in 2005, Rapiejko, who was in his early 20s at the time, was accused of pointing his gun at a driver and then choking him, it was reported . The lawsuit was settled in 2008, with the plaintiff receiving $20,000.
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Quote:And what would you be saying, I wonder, if when the cops had the chance to take him out, but didn't and he went on to walk into a school and kill fifty kids?
-ignoring how absurdly rare that an event like that is...and how purile it makes the question in context....I'd call it a tragedy - but nothing that any cop could have or should have prevented in such a manner.  Unfortunately (or fortunately, imo) our system is set up so that you actually have to -commit- said crime before that crime can be used as a justification for why the state acted against your interests.  Committing some other crime does not immediately invite such wonderment, and I'm appalled at how quickly discussions go from zero to douche whenever this line is drawn in the sand. We could end a hell of alot of crime before it ever occurs if we just let the cops go out on random citizen duckshoots every morning. We don't..because it's a bad idea. It doesn't become a better idea if the citizens being shot have committed some other crime. Or, in this case..rather than shot..run over. Personally, I -do- care that this guy got run over....and I bet you'd want me to care..if it were you.

Whatever happened to being handcuffed, tossed in a jail cell, and being put on trial? When did everything become a potential shooting and/or maiming offense...and when did we become okay with this? I think that cops might want to take a lesson from Barney, and keep their bullets in their pockets (along with their car keys..apparently...is there anything that they can be trusted with ffs?)
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Quote:Committing some other crime does not immediately invite such wonderment, and I'm appalled at how quickly discussions go from zero to douche whenever this line is drawn in the sand. 
Blame it on fucking Nancy Grace. 
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As much as I don't like Nance Grace I would like to have rough sex with her. Preferably with her tied up.
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