(April 19, 2015 at 8:09 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 18, 2015 at 12:46 pm)Pizza Wrote: The idea that a body part could have many functions is beyond their minds.

I for example also use my penis for pissing and hammering in stubborn nails.

Don't rule out pacifier . . . 

(April 19, 2015 at 8:44 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: 1) Don't you fucking accuse me of lying, you jackass. That's the sort of shit that does get you reported.

The weird part is that he accused you of lying on a post that you literally could not lie in, as it had no statements purporting to represent the facts within it. He's just shitposting, now.

It's like you kill someone, and there's a witness who runs off. Instead of giving up, you chase down the witness and kill him too. But another witness sees you. Do you give up now? No, you chase this one down too. But you get seen again...

How many corpses do you rack up before you surrender to the police? In this neck of the woods, someone is always going to see you do any given murder.

(April 19, 2015 at 1:26 am)Mezmo! Wrote: ..that's what you get when atheists read the bible because they're just looking for loopholes to justify their basest desires.

Oh yes, Every morning I go from ancient scroll to ancient scroll to justify my meal of bacon and toast. Then I spend the mid day looking at ancient stone carvings to justify my wearing of mixed fabrics. Then in the afternoon I study ancient papyri to justify my picking up of sticks in my yard on Saturdays.
Damn .. you nailed us there! You must hold several bob jones phd's to have dived so deep into the atheistic mind.
Anyway, if you truly believed that god smote so many people that displeased him in the old days, his complete impotance in the modern age must really chaff your balls. If god hated homosexuality so much, he could simply fix them with a pinch of his magic fairy dust or a wave of his magic wand. But of course he'd never do that, he never painlessly fixed anything, he just killed and smote and organized his minions to do his dirty bigoted commands.

I wonder if Chad looks for loopholes in the dragon rules book so he can do "dragon disobedience" each day?

What, you haven't heard of the book? It's in each of our minds, you just have to believe in it and you'll be able to read it. You don't want to know what the dragons do to people who don't believe...

Statistically, we're all going to infinitely many hells. Except theists, who will go to infinitely many minus 1. Which is still infinitely many. Your soul gets split between all these hells for all the gods that could possibly exist in different dimensions.

(April 19, 2015 at 11:58 am)robvalue Wrote: It's like you kill someone, and there's a witness who runs off. Instead of giving up, you chase down the witness and kill him too. But another witness sees you. Do you give up now? No, you chase this one down too. But you get seen again...

How many corpses do you rack up before you surrender to the police? In this neck of the woods, someone is always going to see you do any given murder.

'Course, in Heywood's case he fails at killing anybody, and just keeps chasing the witness shouting "I killed you! You're dead now!" to him until he gets bored.

I don't believe homosexuality is set in stone (genetic); I don't believe it's a simple choice like picking out a tie; and I don't believe it is a psychological disorder that needs a 'cure'. What I do believe is that it results from the brain's plasticity and the brain fixating on the 'wrong' thing in a critical stage of development (in adolescence when hormones are in overdrive). Whether any conscious choice is involved in that process I do not know - that might differ between individuals - but what I do know is that if there was a choice it was an uninformed choice - like most childhood choices are.

Strictly speaking I'm bisexual but I identify as gay so I can perhaps understand these 'choice' arguments more than someone who is 100% gay. I don't believe I ever sat down and consciously decided, in a single decision, to focus on one more than the other, but at the same time I can understand how it might have been a gradual choice; one that was influenced by environmental factors in my life at the time, with gay coming out on top.

But just so there are no misunderstandings, I am referring to two different potential choices in this post; one is the bisexual choice which may only apply to those with pre-existing attraction to both sexes, and the other is the initial fixation phase that I believe occurs in adolescence or thereabouts and from which the resulting attractions may be the basis for the bisexual choice, or not as the case may be. But in both cases if there was any conscious choice involved, it was uninformed, and therefore something that should not be attacked as if it were an informed choice.

I can understand Heywood's palate argument, and even agree with it to some degree, but only to the extent that it develops from at most uninformed choices as I've explained. Also, sexuality differs from the palate, or any other mundane preference you could develop, in the strength and power of its influence. It is, after all, a fundamental part of human or animal life. And once it is set, erroneously or otherwise, it becomes your very nature.

This is just my opinion, to which I am entitled just as much as everyone else is to theirs.

(April 19, 2015 at 1:40 pm)emjay Wrote: But just so there are no misunderstandings, I am referring to two different potential choices in this post; one is the bisexual choice which may only apply to those with pre-existing attraction to both sexes, and the other is the initial fixation phase that I believe occurs in adolescence or thereabouts and from which the resulting attractions may be the basis for the bisexual choice, or not as the case may be. But in both cases if there was any conscious choice involved, it was uninformed, and therefore something that should not be attacked as if it were an informed choice.

You do understand that there are many shades of gray between totally straight and totally gay? Anti gay people usually see it as a black and white issue and if they are to feel any attraction to their own sex, they claim it to be a choice to be made when in fact they're at lleast mildly bisexual themselves.

When I was 14 I was attracted to one boy in my class. That never happened before and never afterwards, so I'm 90something percent straight. But the fact remains that there was an attraction at one time with one person.

(April 19, 2015 at 2:09 pm)abaris Wrote:

(April 19, 2015 at 1:40 pm)emjay Wrote: But just so there are no misunderstandings, I am referring to two different potential choices in this post; one is the bisexual choice which may only apply to those with pre-existing attraction to both sexes, and the other is the initial fixation phase that I believe occurs in adolescence or thereabouts and from which the resulting attractions may be the basis for the bisexual choice, or not as the case may be. But in both cases if there was any conscious choice involved, it was uninformed, and therefore something that should not be attacked as if it were an informed choice.

You do understand that there are many shades of gray between totally straight and totally gay? Anti gay people usually see it as a black and white issue and if they are to feel any attraction to their own sex, they claim it to be a choice to be made when in fact they're at lleast mildly bisexual themselves.

When I was 14 I was attracted to one boy in my class. That never happened before and never afterwards, so I'm 90something percent straight. But the fact remains that there was an attraction at one time with one person.

Yes, I understand that. I've not said anything against it. I would be very surprised it there was anyone who was absolutely 100% gay or straight. It's a continuum.

(April 19, 2015 at 5:11 am)Pandæmonium Wrote:

(April 19, 2015 at 1:26 am)Mezmo! Wrote: The reason homosexuality is not mentioned specifically in the Bible is because if fell within a general category of sexual sin, porneia, that includes all forms of sexual sin and perversity, including heterosexual sodomy and adultery. But that's what you get when atheists read the bible because they're just looking for loopholes to justify their basest desires.

What an incredibly stupid post.

Par the course at the moment for you isn't it Chad? Take a dump on a thread with baseless unsupported assertions then fuck off to another thread to start the process all over again.

Poor form.

Where have all the good theists gone?

Naw, I just get bored with the antireligious bigotry, juvenile insults, and unrepentant depravity of irrational nihilists that take over the threads as they grow longer.