I live in Pakistan not a very kind place for an Atheist to be :p People here are eager to kill any apostates so i am safer in my closet lol

I will try but online dating is not very popular here,I am currently almost 21 years old so i have some time to find a partner

That's a good idea but i don't want them facing any prejudice or hate just because their father is an Atheist

I am checking your website its pretty great and simple

most of the Atheist and anti religious sites are blocked here so i am glad I found this one,thanks for the support and care

i need to get that in my head but all the religious talks and people praying around me makes me feel bad

Hello, there.

You might consider using a proxy site to visit here, like:

https://www.hidemyass.com/proxy


You never know who is watching.  Allah, it seems, is fairly inept at rooting out apostates and needs the secret police to save his ass.

(May 1, 2015 at 12:15 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: For most new atheists, those feelings of depression and anger will fade. You will discover that, other than eliminating your unsupported god beliefs, you probably haven't changed as a person.

If you were a good person as a believer, you will remain a good person as an atheist. If the only reason why you were a good person when you were a believer is because of the fear of a god, or the hope of a reward, you weren't really a good person.

Human morals originate from a combination of our evolutionary past as a social species, natural empathy, rationality, reciprocal altruism. No gods needed.

I always believed that if you do a good deed for a reward then you haven't done a good deed at all but i am wondering about other stuff like Muslims don't drink alcohol or eat pork etc i wonder if i will change and try those things or will i continue the way i was

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(May 1, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Jericho Wrote: Also a good fact to note is that you don't neccessarily need atheist friends.  My best friends and coworkers are all believers in some sort of religion, leaving me as the only atheist in our group.  A lot of us also believe that your religion (or lack thereof) should have no bearing with your personal and professional lifestyles.

At the end of the day, you are the same person you were before.  So don't worry, be happy.

I live among Muslims and religion means everything to them literary everything,their whole lives are governed by religion and their are blind in their faith and love for Islam and will not hesitate to kill someone for their faith,Maybe i am exaggerating but its too risky to come out,they will never accept my beliefs but instead they will hate me for them

If I were you, I'd aim to go live in another country! I'm sure that has crossed your mind. Most European countries are atheist friendly.

As for Muslim restrictions and traditions, again that's totally up to you. There are no good reasons for those restrictions. You may have your own different reasons for continuing that way, if not, then there's nothing wrong with changing. You're free to make your own choices

I agree, if you do something good only in order to get a reward, then it's not particularly good. The moral choice is the one expecting nothing in return.

Glad you like my website! Please ask if anything is unclear.

It makes me so sad how people's whole life can be a religion. I'm very sorry you've got caught up in it.

(May 1, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Twisted Wrote: I live among Muslims and religion means everything to them literary everything,their whole lives are governed by religion and their are blind in their faith and love for Islam and will not hesitate to kill someone for their faith,Maybe i am exaggerating but its too risky to come out,they will never accept my beliefs but instead they will hate me for them

I know exactly what you mean. I am currently living in Bahrain due to my work, and have been here for a little over two years. I know what it is like with all of the people here being extremely dedicated to Islam. Not to mention my coworkers that are devout Christians. I guess you could call me the odd one out.

Welcome, Twisted. Thanks for reminding some of that we shouldn't be bitching about living in the overly-religious US. Living in Pakistan has got to seriously suck. I'd try to find a way out of there if I were you.

Twisted - How you feel about losing your religion reminds me of how I felt about losing mine.  I was raised a devout Christian.  Losing my religion was very painful and unpleasant, but I am much happier now than I ever was when I was religious.  I am not worried about God punishing me, just like I don't worry about other nonexistent things.  But it took a while before I felt good about it.

(May 1, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Twisted Wrote: I live in Pakistan not a very kind place for an Atheist to be :p People here are eager to kill any apostates so i am safer in my closet lol

I will try but online dating is not very popular here,I am currently almost 21 years old so i have some time to find a partner

That's a good idea but i don't want them facing any prejudice or hate just because their father is an Atheist

I am checking your website its pretty great and simple

most of the Atheist and anti religious sites are blocked here so i am glad I found this one,thanks for the support and care

i need to get that in my head but all the religious talks and people praying around me makes me feel bad

You might want to use some sort of proxy site, as Minimalist suggests above.

Also, make sure you never reveal too much information about yourself here, or anywhere else online, as you do not want someone finding out who you are.

And every day you use your computer, before shutting it off or putting it to sleep mode, delete your cookies, and browsing history, and etc., to make sure that if someone gets hold of your computer, it cannot be used against you.

Leaving the country would be great if you can manage it, but that is often not a very easy or realistic thing to do.

As for things like drinking alcohol and other such things prohibited by Islam, I recommend that you not do those things, in order to avoid problems from your neighbors.  If you move to the U.S. or Europe or Australia or New Zealand or... then you might want to try alcohol, but be careful with it if you do.  In moderation, it is good for you, but in excess, it can lead to all sorts of problems.  Some people have trouble moderating their intake, and it would be better to not start at all than to drink too much.  And don't drive a car or operate heavy or dangerous machinery after drinking, as it temporarily affects coordination and etc., making it very dangerous under certain circumstances.  But for now, I recommend that you abstain, just to avoid having your neighbors do very bad things to you.


I am sorry I don't have any great suggestion that will solve your problems.  Be careful, and be safe.

thank you everyone for your support i feel much better after talking to you guys i never used a forum before so trying to figure out how it works :p

I'm really glad to hear it has helped

If you have any questions about how the forum works, please do ask. Of particular use are the links near the top for "today's posts" to find out what topics have recent activity, and "my posts" to look for responses in topics you've been involved in. I generally use those all the time rather than looking at separate parts of the forum.

Welcome aboard, twisted!
If you're in a place where your own government prevents access to certain sites, you'd best make good use of proxies.
One easy way is by using the Tor Browser.

Enjoy your time around here!