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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 11:28 am
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(June 19, 2015 at 8:07 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Alternative to mans law is what I've been talking about. Conscience, morally positive thinking. There would most likely have to be some sort of enforcement. That is where the problem would lie because we are all human and susceptible to temptation, greed, and the like. How do you keep appointed enforcement honest?
-which is precisely why your statement in non-sensical. Temptation, greed and the like? Those aren't things we're -susceptible to- as though they were a communicable disease....that's part of what it means to be a human being, and our conscience is equally capable of leading us to "temptation..greed and the like"......so following that conscience isn't actually preventative. If we're enforcing -against- some subset of very human behaviors we are again..talking about "mans law" and it seems pretty arbitrary in your example, specifically. Greed should be illegal? Temptation should be illegal? Even an "honest" enforcement agent (whatever that's supposed to mean in context) becomes a bit of a cunt if those are the types of laws he's enforcing. Greed and temptation never need to leave a persons head to be very present, very real, and very much the consequences our our conscience.....you're awfully damned close to advocating for the enforcement of thoughtcrime...provided that the enforcement agent is "honest"....
GL with that.....I'll be here on my porch, should your dream ever be realized.....waiting for the opportunity to do what my conscience would tell me to do in that scenario...which is to shoot your honest enforcement agents on sight.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 11:31 am
(June 19, 2015 at 10:54 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Your judgment is clouded in that the see everything through the looking glass of science when science is in it's infancy and has yet proven many things. There are many good hypotheses though. Open your minds. Ancient were doing the same as you. Describing things to the best of there ability. Everything is know doubt connected. How can I prove it? Through experience. How can I prove to others? Maybe I can't if they strictly see things one way.
What is your judgment based on?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 11:45 am
I know! The bible, right?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Yeah, people from all over the world are using a vast interconnected network of computers to discuss how our judgement is clouded with the looking glass of science.
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June 19, 2015 at 1:40 pm
I try not to judge. I take all things in including science and the undescribable overwhelming joy that I have felt through a connection that I can only describe as the truth. A sensation of knowing and understanding. You can call it what you want. When I refer to it I feel wrong calling it anything other than the lord, god, creation, existence, unity, or any other respectful term along those lines.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm
(June 19, 2015 at 1:40 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: I try not to judge. I take all things in including science and the undescribable overwhelming joy that I have felt through a connection that I can only describe as the truth. A sensation of knowing and understanding. You can call it what you want. When I refer to it I feel wrong calling it anything other than the lord, god, creation, existence, unity, or any other respectful term along those lines.
You mean you are a drug addict, and you will justify your addiction by any means necessary 
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June 19, 2015 at 2:52 pm
No longer addicted to drugs. The high I sometimes experience has no come down, adverse effects or negative thoughts from excessive use.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 2:55 pm
(June 19, 2015 at 2:52 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: No longer addicted to drugs. The high I sometimes experience has no come down, adverse effects or negative thoughts from excessive use.
Based on what I've seen, I would heartily contest that statement. You just found a different kind of drug, and it has made you so very blinkered.
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June 19, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Yes, I have been on here too much.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
June 19, 2015 at 7:50 pm
(June 19, 2015 at 6:33 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Yes, I have been on here too much.
Yes yes, very clever of you, well done.
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