(June 21, 2015 at 5:26 am)robvalue Wrote: You have somehow managed to become even more arrogant and dismissive. I've no further interest in talking to you.

I don't care if there is a god, and I'm not claiming there isn't. And to expect all atheists to agree is to utterly misunderstand everything about the subject.

If you decide to become polite and respectful and interested in actually learning anything, then get back to me.

You're just sinning bearing false witness. Try to back up your accusations.

There you have it, you admit you don't care which is not interested, polite, respectful or empathetic. Since you admit God could exist then you are what is called agnostic. This is no better than Atheism, because both sides do not accept the uncreated Creator which was proven and you shut your mind down to that proof.

I don't expect all atheists to agree why they are atheists, as such confusion is typical in the world. Who is the author of confusion and the god of this world? But I do know all theists have the same reason why the uncreated Creator exists by this proof even someone on a remote island thousands of years ago would hold. 

I have been polite and respectful and interested, but you have not been any of these things. Why do you not treat others as you would like to be treated?

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(June 21, 2015 at 5:45 am)Neimenovic Wrote:

(June 21, 2015 at 5:26 am)crosssaves Wrote: Read the opening post. That's why I posted it, not for you to ignore it. Don't shut your mind down.

The opening post is a disgusting pile of Kalam that has been digested and vomited several times.

Give me the facts, give me the evidence, then we can talk

You're mistaken and misread. Kalam says what begins to exist must have a cause. Whereas I have not assumed that which exists in nature began to exist, but proved it by the evidence. It would be incumbent upon you then to respond to the opening post that gives the proof. As the previous agnostic poster just said, he doesn't care anyway that's why you would not do so.

Nuupe. Your unsupported a priori musings laced with special pleading are not evidence for anything other than your misunderstanding of science and atheism.

Try again.

(June 21, 2015 at 5:49 am)TubbyTubby Wrote:

(June 21, 2015 at 5:15 am)crosssaves Wrote: I am so glad that if an atheist thought the universe always existed, you would correct them on that fallacy. Atheists can't seem to agree on the reason why they believe what they believe. You're all over the place.

I suggest you aquaint yourself with the meaning of the word atheist before you make an even bigger tit of yourself.

I am acquainted with it, fully aware it is the only word in the English language, defined in the dictionary, for the belief God does not exist.

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(June 21, 2015 at 5:55 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Nuupe. Your unsupported a priori musings laced with special pleading are not evidence for anything other than your misunderstanding of science and atheism.

Try again.

You're special pleading special pleading. Deal with the evidence given in the opening post.

Quote:crosssaves said

I am so glad that if an atheist thought the universe always existed, you would correct them on that fallacy. Atheists can't seem to agree on the reason why they believe what they believe. You're all over the place.

You know why matey ...It's very simple.
Because we are not told what to believe.
Have you ever questioned the way "your" god is?  No? Why not!   There's lots of gods out there, how do you know you're sucking up to the right one?
Life is harder when you have to think for yourself, but that what we do and why we don't agree on many things ...We're not sheep ....BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Idk what sorta dictionaries you read son, but even a google search says you're wrong

atheism
ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: non-belief, non-theism, disbelief, unbelief, scepticism, doubt

(June 21, 2015 at 5:58 am)ignoramus Wrote:

Quote:crosssaves said

I am so glad that if an atheist thought the universe always existed, you would correct them on that fallacy. Atheists can't seem to agree on the reason why they believe what they believe. You're all over the place.

You know why matey ...It's very simple.
Because we are not told what to believe.
Have you ever questioned the way "your" god is?  No? Why not!   There's lots of gods out there, how do you know you're sucking up to the right one?
Life is harder when you have to think for yourself, but that what we do and why we don't agree on many things ...We're not sheep ....BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It would be illogical to try to figure out which is the correct God before realizing the uncreated Creator exists.

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(June 21, 2015 at 5:58 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Idk what sorta dictionaries you read son, but even a google search says you're wrong

atheism
ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: non-belief, non-theism, disbelief, unbelief, scepticism, doubt

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism?r=66

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

From your link

2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

(June 21, 2015 at 6:02 am)Neimenovic Wrote: From your link

2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

By believing God does not exist naturally you lack and disbelieve, but you still believe God does not exist if you are an atheist.

Definition 1 still stands even though that may irk you from that link.

Whereas agnosticism is the belief God could exist, but you lack and disbelieve because you are not sure.

Sigh.

Strong (gnostic) atheism = there for sure is no god
Weak (agnostic) atheism = there could be a god, but I don't believe one exists



Check your shit before posting -_-

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