(June 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Because those nails were certainly sterilized before being hammered in....

He died within 6 hours of being crucified......

(June 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(June 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Because those nails were certainly sterilized before being hammered in....

He died within 6 hours of being crucified......

And that negates what I wrote how?

(June 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(June 29, 2015 at 12:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: He died within 6 hours of being crucified......

And that negates what I wrote how?

Think about it long and hard.

(June 29, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(June 29, 2015 at 12:16 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: And that negates what I wrote how?

Think about it long and hard.

Are you coming on to me?

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In all seriousness, there's no set amount of time it takes for a wound to become septic.  Given he was beaten, whipped, hammered to a crucifix, and stabbed with a spear, all with unsterilized equipment.

Keep in mind: septic merely means infected.

(June 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(June 29, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Think about it long and hard.

Are you coming on to me?

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In all seriousness, there's no set amount of time it takes for a wound to become septic.  Given he was beaten, whipped, hammered to a crucifix, and stabbed with a spear, all with unsterilized equipment.

Keep in mind: septic merely means infected.

There maybe no set time for a wound to become infected, but I will guarantee that it is longer than 6 hours...

(June 29, 2015 at 12:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(June 29, 2015 at 12:27 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Are you coming on to me?

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In all seriousness, there's no set amount of time it takes for a wound to become septic.  Given he was beaten, whipped, hammered to a crucifix, and stabbed with a spear, all with unsterilized equipment.

Keep in mind: septic merely means infected.

There maybe no set time for a wound to become infected, but I will guarantee that it is longer than 6 hours...

That's because you're an idiot.

EDIT: Infections are transmitted almost immediately. The time to when symptoms present themselves vary, depending on the bug in question and the body's ability to fight it off. Sometimes no symptoms appear because the body fights it off successfully before the bug can take root. The mitigating factors in this case - a guy living in the unsanitary ancient Middle East spending a day getting beaten and tortured - would obviously compromise his ability to fight it off. And, keep in mind, such bugs would continue to attack his tissue even after death. Which is what everyone else has been saying.

Protip: don't rely on the bible for knowledge about germs.

(June 29, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Seems someone needs some reading comprehension.
Your quote is speaking of SEPTIC wounds speeding up decomposition. A septic wound is a wound that is infected and already rotting you muppet.


So unless your claiming Jesus died with septic wounds your source is irrelevant.

What Starvald Demelain was claiming is that normal wounds (not septic ones)"of a body that was beaten and crucified" would speed up the rate of decay, This is what I requested his source for....

*you're, like in 'you're a fucking idiot'.

Are you claiming that Jesus was whipped, beaten and nailed to a cross without even one wound becoming infected in the times when demons substituted the germ theory?

Are you really that fucking dumb?

No, you intellectually dishonest cretin. The wound does not take longer than six hours to be infected. An infection can happen virtually instantly, like Kev noted, and it would be fucking miraculous if after all that flogging, beating and hammering with obviously unsterilized nails the wound DIDN'T become infected.

Shit, you can become infected by the otherwise harmless bacteria living on your skin if they get into the wound.

And nice goalpost shifting there. Like nobody fucking noticed. You asked for a source to prove bacteria speed up the process of decay, and now you're arguing that it would take longer than 6 hours to infect a wound. Soooo slick -_-

The confidence you show in your blatant dishonesty is nauseating. And don't you fucking dare pull out those quote mined posts of other members like you love to do. Tu quoques won't make you look better.

Does anyone agree that Jesus returned to God spiritually upon death and that judgement will be at the time that we won't be able to sustain life on the Earth for whatever reason?

(June 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Does anyone agree that Jesus returned to God spiritually upon death and that judgement will be at the time that we won't be able to sustain life on the Earth for whatever reason?

I don't agree with any of it. But I think that even Christians do not make claims about judgment coming only after Earth is incapable of sustaining life. Most Christians believe that Jesus will return to judge the world and those living in it, which would necessitate Earth still being populated.

Not after.at the same time. All life in material form will perish from the Earth. Leaving our spirit or energy to be judged at the time of physical death.