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Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
#31
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 27, 2015 at 11:23 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote: Considering that the average body's organs start to decay within a 24-72 hour period and begins to bloat within 3 days while keeping in mind that the condition of a body that was beaten and crucified isn't exactly average to begin with.... yeah. Pretty sure there was some decay going on. Twit.

Actually, biochemical decay starts immediately upon cessation of circulation, and progress at different rates for different organs and cells.

It may not stink for a while, but by the time it starts to stink from bacterial action, it has already gone a long way down the path of irreversible chemical decay.
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#32
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 28, 2015 at 12:57 am)Exian Wrote: But what if the body was sealed off in a glass coffin and covered in wax?

It might slow the rate at which the body is eaten by worms and bacteria, but won't make a bit of difference to the rate at which the cells basically digest their own organelles.
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#33
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 27, 2015 at 7:27 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The Lord has been prophesied to return when this earth can no longer support us as humans.

So... in about five billion years?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#34
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
Don't know. Maybe a meteor will hit the earth and literally set it a blaze. Or maybe we could be struck hard enough to be forced from our orbit.

Which in turn will also set the world ablaze
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#35
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 29, 2015 at 10:42 am)Tonus Wrote:
(June 27, 2015 at 7:27 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The Lord has been prophesied to return when this earth can no longer support us as humans.

So... in about five billion years?

Current theory of stellar evolution and climate modeling suggests there less than 1 billion years before earth in its current orbit would become too hot to support complex organism with biochemistry similar to ours.
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#36
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
So we may have time to make a difference.
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#37
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Yeah...unless the republicunts keep obstructing.
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#38
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 29, 2015 at 11:09 am)Chuck Wrote: Current theory of stellar evolution and climate modeling suggests there less than 1 billion years before earth in its current orbit would become too hot to support complex organism with biochemistry similar to ours.

Shit, that makes it sound urgent.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#39
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
(June 28, 2015 at 3:26 am)Neimenovic Wrote:
(June 28, 2015 at 1:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*
Can you provide any sources for this?

Are you kidding?
How about you open a fucking biology book?
Even the source YOU linked can give you a clear answer. Bacteria are the cause of decomposition, so naturally a larger amount of them means the process will happen faster. It's not rocket science, Huggy.

Here. As if it was so fucking hard to figure out on your own.

Quote:Be aware also that hot temperatures will speed up this process, while cooler temperatures will slow it down. Also, a person who has died with a septic wound will suffer the effects of putrefaction faster, as the bacteria from sepsis spreads quickly and does damage on a larger and faster scale.
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Seems someone needs some reading comprehension.
Your quote is speaking of SEPTIC wounds speeding up decomposition. A septic wound is a wound that is infected and already rotting you muppet.

http://www.univsource.com/words/septic-adj.htm

Quote:septic (adj) (of a wound or part of your body) poisoned by harmful bacteria.

When a wound/injury gets septic, harmful bacteria poison the wound/injury, and the part of the body that is septic may be rotten.

The diabetic old man had an injury in his leg and before he could be brought to the hospital, the injury became septic. The injured part of the body poisoned by harmful bacteria has become rotten and was stinking. The doctor gave him antibiotics after dressing the injury with antiseptic lotion.
 
The cut on the finger became septic because it was not immediately treated. Harmful bacteria poisoned the injury and puss was oozing from it.

So unless your claiming Jesus died with septic wounds your source is irrelevant.

What Starvald Demelain was claiming is that normal wounds (not septic ones)"of a body that was beaten and crucified" would speed up the rate of decay, This is what I requested his source for....
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#40
RE: Disproving The Resurrection By The Maximal Facts Approach
Because those nails were certainly sterilized before being hammered in....
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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