What the fuck pool

You were the one arguing that god exists because you defined god as any being superior to humans, and now you're arguing that because a consistent definition of god can't be made, atheists have a burden of proof?

Look, I almost get what you're trying to say, but nonetheless theists and atheists do exist and there are people who believe in a god, however poorly they might define it. Atheism is the default position, and as I mentioned the term only exists because of the prevalence of theism.

You on the other hand, while being an atheist, appear to just want to be different and say everybody else is stupid.

You're like the 1 person that can understand me of the other 10000 people i've met up until now.

I don't think anyone would understand that feeling,ever!
It's like living in the moon where i'm the only person and then i find another person there one day!

(Actually one of my friends is able to grasp my reasoning but he is too close minded when it comes to religion.He is a devoted christian.Oh,look at that,the smartest person i've known up until my life is a devoted christian,not that it correlates with intelligence,just a pleasant coincidence.)

@Neimenovic, I'd be lying if i said i didn't want to give all the mean atheists a taste of their own medicine.

Yes, because anyone who doesn't follow your flawed reasoning is simply unintelligent. After all, it cannot be that you're mistaken -_-

Even the concept that, "if theism didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist", is ridiculous. If the belief in god didn't exist then everyone would lack a belief in god, making everyone an atheist by definition, the position would still be there but there probably wouldn't be any use for the label.

(July 6, 2015 at 6:26 am)pool Wrote: You're like the 1 person that can understand me of the other 10000 people i've met up until now.

I don't think anyone would understand that feeling,ever!
It's like living in the moon where i'm the only person and then i find another person there one day!

(Actually one of my friends is able to grasp my reasoning but he is too close minded when it comes to religion.He is a devoted christian.Oh,look at that,the smartest person i've known up until my life is a devoted christian,not that it correlates with intelligence,just a pleasant coincidence.)

@Neimenovic, I'd be lying if i said i didn't want to give all the mean atheists a taste of their own medicine.

I think your a dishonest poe that is trying to make a ridiculous argument with concepts that are way over his head. I think your a theist trying sneak god in through the backdoor, first you try and weasel god in with definitions and now your trying to make it seem like atheism is an irrational position by using strawman arguments.

(July 6, 2015 at 6:35 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Even the concept that, "if theism didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist", is ridiculous. If the belief in god didn't exist then everyone would lack a belief in god, making everyone an atheist by definition, the position would still be there but there probably wouldn't be any use for the label.

If you are saying that "A lack of belief in god." is Atheism.
Then Pool comes along one day and says that Pool lacks a belief in atheism.
Seeing how Theism is no longer existent.
Where the burden of proof now?

(July 6, 2015 at 6:26 am)pool Wrote: You're like the 1 person that can understand me of the other 10000 people i've met up until now.

I don't think anyone would understand that feeling,ever!
It's like living in the moon where i'm the only person and then i find another person there one day!

(Actually one of my friends is able to grasp my reasoning but he is too close minded when it comes to religion.He is a devoted christian.Oh,look at that,the smartest person i've known up until my life is a devoted christian,not that it correlates with intelligence,just a pleasant coincidence.)

@Neimenovic, I'd be lying if i said i didn't want to give all the mean atheists a taste of their own medicine.

I get where you're coming from. But that's the point - some won't. It's for you to build that bridge of understanding then, if there isn't one, yet you want to cross that river(excuse the overindulging metaphors). I know why you feel the need to give some atheists a taste of their own medicine, but if you think about it, it won't solve anything. Atheists are not really the kind of people to be persuaded by such means.

 Neimenovic, the key is to first understand what the person says if you are bent on engaging said person in a conversation. You can't just talk in terms that would appear enigmatic to every single person that hasn't shared your particular experience and knowledge up to this point and expect them to simply bow to your reasoning just because it's obviousness is so blatant to you alone between you and aforementioned people. You'll end up simply alienating everyone you meet, and you know it. So why the exception here? It's no use doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results - well, I'm sure you know whose definition that is.

Ok. Have fun pretending you're smarter than everybody else and that theism doesn't exist. I won't disturb you.

(July 6, 2015 at 6:41 am)pool Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 6:35 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Even the concept that, "if theism didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist", is ridiculous. If the belief in god didn't exist then everyone would lack a belief in god, making everyone an atheist by definition, the position would still be there but there probably wouldn't be any use for the label.

If you are saying that "A lack of belief in god." is Atheism.
Then Pool comes along one day and says that Pool lacks a belief in atheism.
Seeing how Theism is no longer existent.
Where the burden of proof now?

You lack a belief that, I lack a belief in a god, in a world where the concept of god doesn't exist? Lol you have no idea what your even talking about, and for the millionth time atheism still makes no claims.

(July 6, 2015 at 6:45 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 6:41 am)pool Wrote: If you are saying that "A lack of belief in god." is Atheism.
Then Pool comes along one day and says that Pool lacks a belief in atheism.
Seeing how Theism is no longer existent.
Where the burden of proof now?

You lack a belief that, I lack a belief in a god, in a world where the concept of god doesn't exist? Lol you have no idea what your even talking about, and for the millionth time atheism still makes no claims.

Yes,i understand atheism is not making any claims but is simply rejecting the claim proposed by theists.
In the scenario presented by you there is no longer theism which would mean that theists are no longer making a claim.
So you're just sitting there rejecting a claim that isn't even made.
That makes you the one making the claim.