Snowy, I started counting the fallacies in that last statement but I ran out of fingers!
No bullshit!

The thing is, the majority of theists don't just believe in some kind of creator, they believe in a specific comic book hero. Those are two entirely different propositions and they get frequently conflated.

The first proposition is of no real consequence. The second usually concerns the destination of your "eternal soul", which obviously makes the additional assumption that there is such a thing.

I'd be happy to say the probability that there is some kind of creator is about 1% by my estimation (the simulation hypothesis, mainly). I feel no need to throw superlatives and fancy words at this hypothetical creator. But the probability that this creator happens to correlate with a comic book character is so negligible that it isn't worth any serious consideration.

And we both know the reason you have to resort to that hypothetical story, snowy, is that you can't cite any real one. Perhaps when you can do that thing - which ought to be trivial, given the claims you keep making - then we'd have something of substance to work on. Until then, fairytales only please children. Very young ones at that.

Our creator (Kevin) could make it increasingly clear this is a simulation, I suppose. I doubt he would have any motivation to do so, though, if he's even aware we exist. It's a big simulation.

Rob. Buried dino bones, our vestigial organs, the bible, all cleverly planted to throw us off so we will never realise we are in a simulation!
Welcome to my world! The world of crazy conspiracies!

Tell me what is more likely.

1 - computer simulation
2 - brain in a vat
3 - matrix illusion
4 - we are part of someone else's dreams
5 - creations of God of the OT
6 - Aliens! but we don't know it
7 - just a boring product of slow evolution

DING DING DING!
And the winner is: ??????

I'll take 7 and look at you funny

It can be boring slow evolution and a simulation I didn't mean to imply that we were in any way the point of the simulation, we just happened to congeal on one of the billions of rocks for a cosmic blink of an eye.

I have no evidence this is a simulation, I just find it the most likely idea I've heard if there is "intelligence" behind all this.

(July 6, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(July 6, 2015 at 11:46 pm)snowtracks Wrote: After billions of years, there was a first thought supposedly from a first brain, and for the first time awareness, information, consciousness, and that’s a big deal compared to a quantum vacuum source originating an universe bubble which is a simple physical to physical conversion. Thought and brain are dependent entities with a naturalistic model. But one had to exist before the other, so the best inference from the data is the creation model.
Science actually recognizes that intelligent design (IE) exist and is currently using IE criteria in research.

How big is the God creature?

'big' is a physical dimension.

So, basically, the only evidence for me would be if I understood everything there is to know about the universe. I would know then, that I am god, because I would be able to do anything at all.

(July 11, 2015 at 2:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote: 'big' is a physical dimension.

You heard it here first: 'big' is a physical dimension. So we have time, length, breadth, height - and big. Guys and gals, we are in the presence of a physics genius; we'd better quit now before we embarrass ourselves any further.