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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 7:58 pm
(August 13, 2010 at 2:58 am)solja247 Wrote: Whether you like it or not. There ARE things which are absolutely evil and things which are absolutely good. Whether or not you like it, there are not things which are 'evil' or 'good' at all. These words do not mean anything, they're tropes for social signaling and psychological triggers. Just projecting your evolutionary biases onto the Universe. Reality doesn't give a shit about your fantasies.
Quote:I know most atheists atempt to discredit this idea (There is a huge problem if there is such thing).
I wish most atheists would try to discredit this idea. Instead they spend all their time being moral masturbators; they've replaced the theology of God with the theology of Humanism. Our atheists are pious people.
Quote:So what is one example of something absolutely evil?
Killing a baby, an innocent baby for any reason is evil. (please dont derail this thread with attacking the Bible)
Nonsense.
Quote:If you think killing a baby is ever justified, I think it is safe to say, that you are sick and perveted.
You're stupid if you think it makes sense to repudiate morality and talk about 'justification'. Nothing is 'justified' or 'unjustified'. It's all just your personal feelings. I also love your circular reasoning here, "Everyone agrees that killing babies is evil, and if you don't there is something wrong with you."
Idiot.
Quote:Some cultures did practice killing babies, however, we would call them 'immoral'.
Perhaps you would. I don't really care. Besides, eugenics are underrated. What good are retards, really?
Quote:Since we are the only creature on this planet, who has the ability to do evil and good and not just to respond to external stimuli. This notion of good and evil had to come from somewhere.
Well, as I explained, 'good' and 'evil' don't exist; and humans (just like everything else) operate on a mixture of internal machinery and external stimulai. Whether or not you like it, we are animals, and machines. We just have some fancy (if ultimately disappointing) cognitive gears spinning around in our heads.
Quote:Evolutionarily speaking why should I care if a child was killed in Africa?
I don't. I couldn't give a damn about that. However, if you're looking for 'why do most people respond to this' it has to do with sociobiological tropism, evolved herd characteristics which integrate with cultural cues and social signaling practices. You're also stupid if you think there is some direct connexion between cognition and your biology; even if it didn't make any sense for your DNA's sake your DNA is not conscious and intentional; it has no opinions. What you have are a slapdash of feelings and thoughts which, historically, have assisted the survival of your DNA. There is no high-precision engineering going on in human beings, just recipes.
Quote:There is no natural explanation for the concept of good and evil. So where did it come from?
Imagination. Fantasy. Evolutionary psychology. It's bullshit, but people believe in it because they're built that way. Just like they usually believe survival is inherently desirable.
Quote:I personally think it came from a cosmological battle between good and evil, although I cant conclude and prove that it, it explains things much better than anything else.
That's not even an 'explanation', that's magical nonsense which means nothing, entails nothing, predicts nothing, and models nothing.
"I personally think it came from an unknowable battle between nonsensical forces in a manner which can not be described."
Will you people go extinct, already? You clutter the world.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
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ChromodynamicGirl Wrote:Will you people go extinct, already? You clutter the world.
lol. Yes, hurry up!
Has someone has really pissed you off.........
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 10:58 pm
(October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: lol. Yes, hurry up!
Has someone has really pissed you off......... Human beings piss me off, when I bother to pay attention to them.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Why do you then? It seems they get to you, but you are one of them. Couldn't you just make the world a better place?
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:10 pm
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(October 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: Why do you then? Because if I have to deal with you cunts, I can at least mock your stupidity. I mainly come to forums to find people who aren't Progressive Humanist fagtards to talk to outside of the forum. I could give a shit what you think.
Quote:It seems they get to you, but you are one of them.
I don't bother myself.
Quote:Couldn't you just make the world a better place?
I don't give a fuck about the world. The 'world' can go suck a dick.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:15 pm
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lol. I was going to join your rude and utter arrogant remarks, but you don't seem worth the time.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:19 pm
The only thing you're worth the time of is ignoring.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm
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(October 16, 2010 at 10:58 pm)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: (October 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: lol. Yes, hurry up!
Has someone has really pissed you off......... Human beings piss me off, when I bother to pay attention to them.
You should kill yourself to reduce the number of human beings that piss you off. BTW, You are probably a radical religious Fundie spy planted here by 1st evangelical church of savior's sadomesochistic morality, and taught to talk trash as your disguise.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 16, 2010 at 11:50 pm
(October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm)Chuck Wrote: You should kill yourself to reduce the number of human beings that piss you off. You're so fucking clever, I've never heard that before!
Obviously, you didn't read what I said above, but hey, another cunt for the ignore bin.
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RE: Problem of good and evil for an atheist
October 17, 2010 at 1:51 am
(October 16, 2010 at 11:50 pm)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: (October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm)Chuck Wrote: You should kill yourself to reduce the number of human beings that piss you off. You're so fucking clever, I've never heard that before!
Obviously, you didn't read what I said above, but hey, another cunt for the ignore bin.
I'll sort out your identity problems for you. You are the cunt. Other people are not. Get that through your head.
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