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Poll: Should atheists be grateful to the pope for his willingness to redeem us?
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"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 3:56 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Try being an assertive ass hat instead.  See how that goes.

Just being assertive would be nice.

Oh and we've had some pretty humble theists. Rayaan, Ryft, Tackatack, Jacob (when he was actually a theist). It's not like we haven't seen a polite person before. There's a difference between being polite and deserving respect and being polite and not deserving respect.

Trust me, I am fully aware you have 0 respect for me and feel as though I generally don't deserve respect.

I am thankful for the people here who don't agree with that.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Napoléon Wrote: She does, she says an awful lot without saying anything at all.

Sorry you feel that way. I feel like I've clarified my thinking for you quite thoroughly, so I'm not sure what I could have done differently. Do you have any other questions?

I do, if he doesn't...yes, what are your thoughts on my post explaining why a taboo against ridiculing something, like religion or a religious position, is a bad idea? You've clarified your position at length, I responded. I hope we can have that conversation.

Post 199, here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34779-page-20.html

(discussion went a mile a minute, probably got buried)
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I am thankful for the people here who don't agree with that.

All this dick sucking is getting boring. Yet again, a nothing post.
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 3:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I clarified, 2 posts after that, that it WAS my opinion and that you can do whatever you want.

Didn't you see? I'm sorry I didn't write IMHO in the first post, my mistake, but I clarified 2 posts later that it was.

Great. You didn't say that at first and it sure didn't sound like it. Probably because 'be kind' *isn't* an opinion.

My apologies. Hopefully I have made it clear to you where I stand, despite my delay in writing IMHO.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:03 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Fixed that for you (my underline).

Right on, nice way to misrepresent my quote.


Quote:Seriously though it all depends on how you went about it.  If you seriously place yourself and your appraisal of what is true above that of your 'friends'

Oh come the fuck on dude. It's not just myself and my appraisal. It's the entire scientific world's appraisal. This was my entire fucking point. The laws of physics do not account for a man returning from the dead, or turning water to wine, or parting seas, or causing plagues. I'd say the same to you as I would to my friends, grow up. Likewise a tooth fairy existing is equally as unlikely. But if you're telling me you'd ignore the fact your "friend" would be stupid enough to believe such tripe, then I'm the one who should be questioning how much you value your "friends".

Quote:it would seem that you haven't even granted them the status of "peer" let alone "friend".

To your limited understanding, yes.

^Lol, see what I'm dealing with, Whateverist?? Tongue
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Again, I am thankful I have never met any of these radical minorities.

I'm glad you're thankful. Sadly, those radical minorities base their radical opinions on the same book you worship.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ^Lol, see what I'm dealing with, Whateverist?? Tongue

What? Well thought out, logical posting? Too much for you?

"Hey whateverist! can I suck your dick whateverist? I'm so glad people like me whateverist! Haha top banter whateverist! Check out this guy that dares to challenge my stupid posts even though I'm being so polite whateverist!"

Le sigh.
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 4:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry you feel that way. I feel like I've clarified my thinking for you quite thoroughly, so I'm not sure what I could have done differently. Do you have any other questions?

I do, if he doesn't...yes, what are your thoughts on my post explaining why a taboo against ridiculing something, like religion, is a bad idea?  You've clarified your position at length, I responded.  I hope we can have that conversation.

Post 199, here:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34779-page-20.html

(discussion went a mile a minute, probably got buried)

I feel like I have already explained my position on this at length, and that is why I did not respond.

I don't think it's wrong to challenge someone's beliefs. In fact, I think it's a good thing.

But I do think there is a right and wrong way to go about doing it. That's all I'm saying here.

Making fun of a friend is not the right way to go about it. And neither is constantly being on their butt about it.

Now, that doesn't mean I think making fun of people shouldn't be allowed. It just means I don't think it's a good thing to do. On or off the internet.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote: All this dick sucking is getting boring.

I take it you're not married?
RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
(July 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(July 20, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I am thankful for the people here who don't agree with that.

All this dick sucking is getting boring. Yet again, a nothing post.

Lol, this was a response to a post where all you did was say you don't respect me and think I don't deserve respect. How was I supposed to answer more in depth than that?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh



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