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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
December 9, 2014 at 1:26 pm
(December 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The establishment clause was intended to prevent an official state religion and religious tests for office holders. It has nothing to do with expressing favors or promotion of religion. If it did the early Congress would not have printed bibles for distribution.
It is a myth that Congress printed Bibles for distribution to schools. David Barton is not a friend of historical accuracy.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
December 12, 2014 at 12:12 pm
(December 8, 2014 at 10:59 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: They act like we're going to blow it up or something.
If I had some C-4 or Semtex, I would.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
December 16, 2014 at 3:02 pm
Quote:President Barack Obama's signature is the only thing needed to pass a law that would keep a four-story cross from being removed from atop Mt. Soledad in San Diego.
Congress passed a bill Friday allowing the Department of Defense to sell the government land where the cross sits to a private entity.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2014/Decem...Signature/
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
December 16, 2014 at 4:26 pm
If the DoD sells it, I'm fine with that, so long it's at market value.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
July 20, 2015 at 7:44 pm
http://www.cbs8.com/story/29591351/depar...um=twitter
And that's what's now been done!
SAN DIEGO (CBS 8) - On Monday, the Mount Soledad Memorial Association announced it had purchased the half-acre property that holds the Mount Soledad Veterans Memorial for $1.4 million from the U.S. Department of Defense.
The memorial contains a cross that has been the source of controversy for decades.
The Mount Soledad Memorial Association has overseen the maintenance and administration of the memorial from its inception in 1954.
The sales price was $1.4 million with the all-cash transaction completed on Friday, July 17. It follows the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2015, signed into law by Congress and signed by the President of the United States in December 2014, calling for the sale of the property by the federal government to the association.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
July 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm
So much for giving money to the poor and all that other BS they like to spout in church.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
July 20, 2015 at 8:01 pm
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(December 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Say goodbye to "free exercise". Maybe next activists can ban free speech.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
July 20, 2015 at 8:02 pm
Obama got $1 million for some shitty old cross?
Good going.
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RE: Mt. Soledad cross ordered to be taken down
July 20, 2015 at 8:15 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 7:53 pm)Spooky Wrote: So much for giving money to the poor and all that other BS they like to spout in church.
You aren't surprised that they are full of shit though, right?
Not even a little.
1.4 million spent on a cross. That could translate into a metric shit-ton of hot meals.
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