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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
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You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
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(July 24, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: ... none of the original perpetrators made a dime off of this. So, what was their motivation?

Who is making money off crop circles? Who made money off Piltdown man?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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(July 24, 2015 at 12:21 am)KevinM1 Wrote: This is the thread that never ends.
It goes on and on my friends.

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And goes nowhere since it is based on a shit premise.
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(July 24, 2015 at 7:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And goes nowhere since it is based on a shit premise.

Several, as it is. Come to think of it, Randy didn't take a shit in here for two days. Must suffer from constipation.
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That isn't apparent.  Judging from the quality of his posts he has terminal diarrhea.
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(July 24, 2015 at 7:27 pm)Rayaan Wrote:
(July 24, 2015 at 12:21 am)KevinM1 Wrote: This is the thread that never ends.
It goes on and on my friends.

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For 2,000 years and into eternity...
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SUMMATION

In this thread, I presented five facts that are accepted by professional New Testament scholars of all faith positions teaching at major universities throughout the western world. The Minimal Facts are:

1. Jesus died by crucifixion
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34162-po...#pid973916
2. Jesus' disciples believed that He rose and appeared to them
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34162-po...#pid975575
3. Saul, the persecutor of the Church, was suddenly changed
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34162-po...#pid980717
4. James, the skeptical brother of Jesus, was suddenly changed
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34162-po...#pid985969
5. Jesus' tomb was found to be empty
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34162-po...#pid988560

Taken together, these five facts provide an unmistakable series of signposts that point toward the logical conclusion that Jesus of Nazareth died on the cross, rose again, and appeared to his disciples—a sequence of events that radically altered their lives and changed the course of human history.

The Evidence Demands a Response

For the skeptic, it is insufficient to merely ignore or deny this evidence—a position which is on par with denying the holocaust or that men landed on the moon.

Apart from humorous attempts at comparing Jesus to Obi-Wan Kenobi or Elvis, no serious efforts have been made to refute or re-interpret the passages from the ancient Jewish and Roman historians cited by New Testament scholars in support of these facts. Those half-hearted (and half-baked) theories which have been suggested in order to explain (or explain away) these facts simply do not have the explanatory scope and power of the astounding claim that Jesus rose from the dead—just as He indicated that He would as evidence for His divinity.

Ironically, in the absence of an adequate alternative, the non-believer is forced to live with nagging doubt about his or her own beliefs that God does not exist.
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I'm assuming that somebody already told this guy that some of the earliest copies we've uncovered of the New Testament never made any mention of a ressurection, right?
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(July 24, 2015 at 8:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: For 2,000 years and into eternity...

You're not immortal don't you know? Tongue
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