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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:07 pm
(July 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Ain't my belief.
Supposedly it's yours, so you are STUCK WITH IT.
Unless you don't feel any particular jot or tittle of respect to that verse, then of course, I realize you feel you know better than God. Also, you're not a Christian, you're a Lekite, why don't you get honest about it ??
Genesis 2:7 English Standard Version (ESV)
7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
I agree with verse. Adam became a living creature when God breathed the breath of life into him. You said that answered the whole question, so I wanted you to apply that and tell me when we become a living person. When does God breathe life into us?
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Pro lifers don't celebrate conception days, never hear of one having a hissy fit at the DMV either.
Why are some christers born again instead of conceived again ??
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm
(July 26, 2015 at 3:58 pm)Losty Wrote: (July 24, 2015 at 1:15 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: * voluntarily pay for an extra plane ticket for their unborn child ??
--and-- are they ever pissed off if they are not asked if they want to ??
* Do any christian pro-life businesses ever grant retirement benefits at age 64 years and 3 months for their employees ??
* are any child sexual molestation cases where the age of the victim is germane to sentencing ever factor in that extra 9 months? (example: if penalties change at age 10 for instance, does that really mean age 9 and 3 months ?)
* when a board game says 'suitable' for ages 4-12, for instance, should a pro-life version of the game be available for parents that feel the game is actually appropriate for children 9 months older (or younger if they are getting as confused about all this as I am, LOL) ??
Only the first one really makes sense to me, we all know prolifers don't give a damn about anyone who lives outside of a womb.
Those nasty pro-choicers don't care a bit about anyone who lives inside the womb.
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:15 pm
(July 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do you think pro-lifers ever adopt any of these unwanted children they go on about.
Actually, check it out. Many do.
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:17 pm
(July 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 26, 2015 at 3:58 pm)Losty Wrote: Only the first one really makes sense to me, we all know prolifers don't give a damn about anyone who lives outside of a womb.
Those nasty pro-choicers don't care a bit about anyone who lives inside the womb.
Point me out a person who lives inside a womb and I will shout "get that guy out of there before he suffocates!"
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2015 at 4:18 pm by Pyrrho.)
(July 26, 2015 at 1:30 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (July 25, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Lek Wrote: I just don't put these reasons ahead of human life. We don't know when a fetus is a human. If you held a revolver with one bullet in it, and didn't know if the one bullet was in the chamber, would you point it at a child and pull he trigger, because not pulling the trigger was going to hamper your career or your education?
As a matter of fact, we do know when a fetus is a human.
Genesis 2:7 is pretty fucking clear, and why, once again, am I reminding a Christian of this??
He should also tell us about why he is going against God in the Bible on the abortion issue, since in Numbers 5, God tells people how they should have abortions:
http://www.parallelbible.com/numbers/5.htm
If the God of the Bible is fine with abortions, I rather wonder how anyone who claims to be a Christian can be against abortions.
The simple fact is, most Christians just ignore the Bible when they want to do so, and just pretend that it says what they want it to say.
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:21 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2015 at 4:53 pm by BrokenQuill92.)
(July 26, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Do you think pro-lifers ever adopt any of these unwanted children they go on about.
Actually, check it out. Many do.
That's surprising. Except they DONT.
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Lek, answer the question:
What gives you the right to make reproductive choices for another human?
If liberty is a major concern in America (I'm assuming here), then why do you presume to take that away from women everywhere?
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:35 pm
(July 26, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: He should also tell us about why he is going against God in the Bible on the abortion issue, since in Numbers 5, God tells people how they should have abortions:
http://www.parallelbible.com/numbers/5.htm
If the God of the Bible is fine with abortions, I rather wonder how anyone who claims to be a Christian can be against abortions.
The simple fact is, most Christians just ignore the Bible when they want to do so, and just pretend that it says what they want it to say.
These verses are not about abortion, but refer to the woman having a womb that will not be able to produce children.
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RE: Do 'pro-life' Christians ever . . .
July 26, 2015 at 4:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2015 at 4:42 pm by Lek.)
(July 26, 2015 at 4:30 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Lek, answer the question:
What gives you the right to make reproductive choices for another human?
If liberty is a major concern in America (I'm assuming here), then why do you presume to take that away from women everywhere?
In our society I don't have a right to take away that choice. Fetuses are not afforded the same rights as people who are already born are. My purpose is to persuade others of the immorality of the practice in the hope that they will make the right choice.
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