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RE: Why Christianity?
August 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm
(August 19, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 8:20 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Ah...well, it shouldn't be long before the atheists here start mocking your new gods.
Good luck with that. Ok, so it seems like I completely debunked your entire premise for being on this thread. Debate WON!
Well done. Take the rest of the night off.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 2:45 am
(August 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Interesting.
When you reflected on the woman's desire to return to the practice of her faith, Kaninchen, were you moved in any way to reflect upon the practice of your own?
Any member of a high 'orthopraxy' religion bumps into reasons to reflect several times a day.
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.
These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.
But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 6:43 am
You awake now, Randy?
(August 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (August 18, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: We put our faith in God based upon what we know about God. There's nothing wrong with gathering the data and making an informed decision to believe and trust God.
What do you know about "God" and how do you know it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 6:28 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 6:43 am)Stimbo Wrote: You awake now, Randy?
(August 18, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What do you know about "God" and how do you know it?
Yes...I've just been asking myself how to answer your question. First, I want to acknowledge the obvious...as an atheist, you reject everything I'm going to say. I get that. Just suspend your disbelief for a moment and see how the other side sees things, okay? I'll start with the "how" first.
We know about God from reason and from revelation.
The former includes using arguments such as first cause, intelligent design, and moral objectivity, etc. The latter includes things that we could NEVER know about God had He not chosen to reveal it - case in point - that God is a Trinity of Persons.
Now, to the "what" question, how should I reply? With a list of God's attributes? With a link to a great book or article?
Perhaps if you tell me what you're looking for more specifically, I can provide a better answer.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 6:33 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 2:45 am)Kaninchen Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Interesting.
When you reflected on the woman's desire to return to the practice of her faith, Kaninchen, were you moved in any way to reflect upon the practice of your own?
Any member of a high 'orthopraxy' religion bumps into reasons to reflect several times a day.
I understand that Jews are not inclined to evangelization of others, but how would you respond to some of the calls from members of this forum for evidence of the existence of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 7:02 pm
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So basically arguments from ignorance, with mythology shoehorned in.
Oh, and if you could kindly refrain from pre-emptively assuming my response for me, that would be so cool. Thanks.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Sometimes I really think, Randy is a Poe on a mission to make christianity and christians look as bad as possible.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Whatever his aims, he is one determined motherfucker. The wasp avatar suits him.
If you have any serious concerns, are being harassed, or just need someone to talk to, feel free to contact me via PM
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 9:08 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Whatever his aims, he is one determined motherfucker. The wasp avatar suits him.
It is a Georgia Tech image:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Te...ow_Jackets
It is a yellow jacket, which is a wasp as you say.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: Why Christianity?
August 20, 2015 at 9:21 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 7:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So basically arguments from ignorance, with mythology shoehorned in.
Oh, and if you could kindly refrain from pre-emptively assuming my response for me, that would be so cool. Thanks.
Not really, Steve.
If you ever decide to take off your atheist glasses and look at the evidence objectively, you'll see that it is substantial.
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