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The Paradox of Power....
RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:06 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 8:20 am)Believer21u Wrote: There are 15 things the church Validates on the Bible 

1.Manuscript Evidence.
2.Archaeological Evidence.
3.Eyewitness Accounts.
4.Corroborating Accounts.
5.Literary Consistency.
6.Prophetic Consistency.
7.Expert Scrutiny.
8.Leader Acceptance. 
9.Global Influence.
10.Changed Lives
11.God’s character
12.Scientific accuracy
13.Claim of the Divine Authorship
14.Unity of the Bible
15.Fulfilled prophecy

Lets talk about one of them scientific accuracy,there are many things in the bible that are accurate with science for example this.

Scientific accuracy of the Bible               Bible is over 1,900 years old.


Fact 1.At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or giant(1500 B.C),it says in the bible.
“he hangs the earth upon nothing”(Job 26:7)

Fact 2.Only recently science discovered that everything is composed of things we can’t see..Atoms.The Bible says this:
“things which are seen were not made of things which do appear”(Hebrews 11:3)

Fact 3.The bible mentions that the earth is round way before it was discovered!!
“it is he that sits up the circle of the earth”(Isaiah 40:22)

Fact 4.Mathew Maury found paths in the sea & the Bible mentions this
“paths of the sea”(Psalms 8:8)

Fact 5.it was a scientificial discovery that light can be sent and manifest itself into speech.God asked Job this in the Bible
“can you send lightnings,that they may go,and say to you,here we are?”(Job 38.35)

Fact 6.It was scientifically discovered recently that the earth is weraing out,this can be found in the Bible in the following,(Isaiah 51:6,Psalm 102:25-26, Hebreews 1:11)

Fact 7.Mississipi River dumps 518 billion gallons every day into the Gulf of Mexico.where does it go?The Clouds.the Bible took’s about condensation verse:
“if the clouds be full of rain,they empty themselves upon the earth.”(Ecclesiastes 11:3)

Fact 8.the First Law of Thermodynamics says “neither matter nor energy can be craeted or destroyed”The Bible says:
“The heavens and the earth were FINISHED”(Genesis 2:1)No creation or destruction of them since!

Fact 9.In Genesis 6,God gave Noah the dimentions the ark.This revolutionized ship building! EVERY large ship on the high seas was inclined toward the proportions of thw Ark.

This is not it,there are more than 50 fact's in the bible but am not going state them all,unless you want me to.

Is the scientific accuracy (lol) of these verses the reason why you believe the bible is true, or is this just a Gish gallop?
No not really,I believe in bible because of all this:
 1.Manuscript Evidence.
2.Archaeological Evidence.
3.Eyewitness Accounts.
4.Corroborating Accounts.
5.Literary Consistency.
6.Prophetic Consistency.
7.Expert Scrutiny.
8.Leader Acceptance. 
9.Global Influence.
10.Changed Lives
11.God’s character
12.Scientific accuracy
13.Claim of the Divine Authorship
14.Unity of the Bible
15.Fulfilled prophecy
  • logical argument
  • teleological argument
  • cosmological argument
  • moral argument

And finally I believe because,it's the obvious truth.  
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:11 am)Randy Carson Wrote:
(September 26, 2015 at 6:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, Costanzo and Nickell both reproduced the so-called '3-D' characteristics on the Shroud, and did so without any miracles.

Boru

Link or source?

Costanzo: http://phys.org/news/2005-06-turin-shroud-fake.html

I don't have a link for Joe Nickell's results. That comes from my hard copy of his book 'Inquest On The Shroud Of Turin'.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:11 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Link or source?

Costanzo:  http://phys.org/news/2005-06-turin-shroud-fake.html

I don't have a link for Joe Nickell's results.  That comes from my hard copy of his book 'Inquest On The Shroud Of Turin'.

Boru

It is argued that the image must have been made by a body (certain features could not have been merely painted) and this person was nude and had recently been whipped, crucified, stabbed in the side , all things common in Roman executions.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 10:52 am)Believer21u Wrote: Santa's not real [...]

Prove it!!! 

What? You can't? Oh, dear - that's probably because he's real and now you will get coal in your stockings - and rightly so, you ungrateful, faithless little heathen.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:21 am)Believer21u Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Costanzo:  http://phys.org/news/2005-06-turin-shroud-fake.html

I don't have a link for Joe Nickell's results.  That comes from my hard copy of his book 'Inquest On The Shroud Of Turin'.

Boru

It is argued that the image must have been made by a body (certain features could not have been merely painted) and this person was nude and had recently been whipped, crucified, stabbed in the side , all things common in Roman executions.
Huh? argued where? by whom? citations please
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:12 am)Believer21u Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:06 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Is the scientific accuracy (lol) of these verses the reason why you believe the bible is true, or is this just a Gish gallop?
No not really,I believe in bible because of all this:
 1.Manuscript Evidence.
. . . . . .
And finally I believe because,it's the obvious truth.  

Let's start with number 1. What do you mean by manuscript evidence?
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:23 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:21 am)Believer21u Wrote: It is argued that the image must have been made by a body (certain features could not have been merely painted) and this person was nude and had recently been whipped, crucified, stabbed in the side , all things common in Roman executions.
Huh? argued where? by whom? citations please

Sorry can't add external link reason "30/30 rule"
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 26, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Stimbo Wrote: And here's Queen playing to a crowd at a little gig you may have heard of:

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What's your point?

In fact, are you able to make any point that isn't an appeal to popularity or a non-sequitur of Wembley proportions?

Point? Aw this boy's as sharp as a bowling ball. He couldn't drill a hole in cotton candy
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:12 am)Believer21u Wrote: No not really,I believe in bible because of all this:
 1.Manuscript Evidence.
. . . . . .
And finally I believe because,it's the obvious truth.  

Let's start with number 1.  What do you mean by manuscript evidence?

I will explain it,if your going to be honest,the thing am not doing,is people telling me what to tell them and after I tell them they deny or ignore it.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
(September 27, 2015 at 11:25 am)Believer21u Wrote:
(September 27, 2015 at 11:23 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Huh? argued where? by whom? citations please

Sorry can't add external link reason "30/30 rule"

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