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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Evie Wrote: I have decided that if I am to be welcomed into the modding community in the future, I will be more than happy to be the "cleaner" who does all the adding hide tags and cleaning up stuff.... I am so sick of the mess I would be more than happy to do that +1
I hereby second your ambition to be the Staff pet anal retentive and total neurotic. 
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 1:34 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 12:39 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: why do they innately have these forces?
Careful, or you'll fall into infinite regression. If everything has to have a reason to exist, then using Gaud as the reason means that Gaud also has to have a reason to exist, and Gaud's creator must have a reason to exist, and so on. If everything but Gaud has to have a reason to exist, your argument is a special pleading fallacy and it ends right there.
Quote:Yes we know what justice is because it is in God's nature. Again like I said He doesn't make us sin but He does take responsibility for us. He has made a way for us to obey Him. Hell is not the only option we can actually enjoy God. You act as if He is going to make you disobey Him. You choose your own way He doesn't make you disobey Him. He actually went to great lengths in order for you to be free from your sins and enjoy Him.
If Gaud knew in advance that I would disobey him and would wind up burning in Hell, and he could have prevented this by not creating me, and he created me anyway, then he is personally responsible for both my disobedience and my damnation because all he had to do to prevent those things was leave me out of existence and put some other poor schmuck's soul in my body. In short, yes, Gaud makes people disobey him because he creates them knowing they will disobey. Gaud's advance knowledge of all future events eliminates virtually any possibility of free will.
Quote:No, there is ample evidence in all creation. Your unwillingness to accept that is your choice
If by "all creation" you mean the Universe, then no, the evidence does not support the Bible, or the existence of any of man's gods, for that matter. The evidence on Earth alone proves that various stories in the Bible are demonstrably false, and it only gets worse the more we learn. Geology proves there was no Flood. Archaeology proves there was no Exodus. Biology, geology, radiology, and a whole mess of other fields prove that the creation story is just wrong, and that Earth is much older than the Bible says it is.
Quote:There are always purposes for God's rules and you can read them in the context of the book it was written and the people it was written to to understand them. Or you can take it out of context to support your presuppositions.
So are you a covenant theologist or a dispensationalist? Do you even know what those things mean?
You're claiming that I'm out of context, but you're not describing how I'm out of context or even what the context is, or how that's even relevant to the discussion. Your claim is that sinful behavior is harmful, and I pointed out several behaviors that are named in the Bible as sins but that aren't harmful in and of themselves. Regardless of the context of the rules themselves, these things are named as sins by the law, and they're not inherently harmful behaviors, so your claim is no good. Jumping into an argument about context is nothing but a smoke screen. If sin is inherently harmful, why aren't all sins from both Testaments actually harmful to the self or someone else?
Quote:If the worlds isn't broken there is nothing wrong with God's actions. My beliefs are not wrong and there is no better or worst.
"If the worlds isn't broken"? Seriously?
The world isn't broken because it wasn't designed, moron. To be broken, something has to have an intended purpose that it isn't meeting because it isn't functioning properly. Because the world has neither an intended purpose nor a proper function, it can't be broken in that sense.
Your beliefs are factually incorrect, so in that sense at least they are wrong. They also inspire you to go around telling people they're bad and they're going to hell just for not believing in something that deliberately and systematically hides all empirical evidence of itself, which is wrong in the sense that it makes you a bigot and a cretin.
Quote:Conjecture and I never believed in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy or the Easter Bunny.
Sure you didn't.
Even if that were true, it only makes it more curious that you do believe in Gaud.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 1:42 pm
FFS, I wish people would stop referring to the guy as "Santa Clause". Tim Allen has a lot for which to answer.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 11:44 am)Rekeisha Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm)Thena323 Wrote: You're not very good at this, are you?
"God is real. God is good. You are bad. You will see." is for the drive-by's, Rekeisha.
You should be able to respond to a difficult question or significant statement with more than mantra at this point.
Fortunately God can work through anyone. I am here to warn you and my ability to answer you to your satisfaction will not be an excuse when you face God. Thanks for the misguided warning chica, but I'm not concerned with facing mythical creatures and beings. I'm confident that there's no one up there to answer to.
Feel free to keep insisting that there is, though..whatever floats your boat.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 5:09 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I hereby second your ambition to be the Staff pet anal retentive and total neurotic.
I am rather neurotic sometimes. I have been trying to work on my neurosis and be less neurotic recently. But still, thanks for noticing 
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 5:21 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 11:44 am)Rekeisha Wrote: Fortunately God can work through anyone. I am here to warn you and my ability to answer you to your satisfaction will not be an excuse when you face God. Thanks for the misguided warning chica, but I'm not concerned with facing mythical creatures and beings. I'm confident that there's no one up there to answer to.
Feel free to keep insisting that there is, though..whatever floats your boat.
Look, Thena, just because you're a goddess doesn't mean you get to ignore my warnings about Cthulhu. There will be no excuse when he destroys your sanity and the universe. He slumbers for now... but don't say I didn't warn you!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 5:40 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Evie Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I hereby second your ambition to be the Staff pet anal retentive and total neurotic.
I am rather neurotic sometimes. I have been trying to work on my neurosis and be less neurotic recently. But still, thanks for noticing
No worries. I merely intended that if you or anyone are not neurotic already, you would be after a week of jizz-mopping the boards. But you're ex-Staff, I don't have to tell you. We both bear the scars of Post-Traumatic Staff Disorder.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 5:41 pm
Well I figured whilst I am remaining this active that activity could come in handy for being a "cleaner".
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm
(March 22, 2015 at 9:36 am)Mental Outlaw Wrote: I'm sure that you have met some of those Christians that say they aren't like the "bad Christians" they throw out the old testament and just follow the words of nice cuddly Jesus, well that doesn't work either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3LlG6U-Uak
read revelation and you'll see the God of the old testament is the same as the new.
God bodies a lot of people
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RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 9, 2015 at 6:53 pm
(October 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: God bodies a lot of people
You know, "God Bodies" is a pretty good name for a band. Or at least a metal album.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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