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Debate Challenge
#71
RE: Debate Challenge
Yeah, but some habits can't be broken.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#72
RE: Debate Challenge
(November 17, 2015 at 12:24 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 12:08 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Interesting, Chad. How is it that you have come to the opinion that I have neither of these?

Experience on AF has taught me that atheist members have only cursory understanding of Aquinas and base their objections on arguments that Aquinas never made. Your claim to understand them perfectly guarantees that you do not. Only if you had 1) you could you gain 2).

This position is hypocritical.  ANYONE can demand that you invest more deeply in their world view in order to fully "get" it.  You haven't invested enough time in Buddhist meditation, Chad.  Nor have you invested enough time studying modern science, or tea leaves or horoscopes or . . .

I guarantee that 100% of the people here think it's crystal clear that you haven't invested enough of yourself in understanding the atheist positions they've put forward, and that it is your bias, not your in-depth inquiry, which leads you to make your conclusions.
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#73
RE: Debate Challenge
I don't think Chad has invested enough time in his -own- ideology.  After all, he still maintains it's truth.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#74
RE: Debate Challenge
(November 17, 2015 at 7:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think Chad has invested enough time in his -own- ideology.  After all, he still maintains it's truth.

Hey rhythm wonna moderate this roasti....ERM...debate.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#75
RE: Debate Challenge
(November 17, 2015 at 7:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 12:24 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Experience on AF has taught me that atheist members have only cursory understanding of Aquinas and base their objections on arguments that Aquinas never made. Your claim to understand them perfectly guarantees that you do not. Only if you had 1) you could you gain 2).

This position is hypocritical.  ANYONE can demand that you invest more deeply in their world view in order to fully "get" it.  You haven't invested enough time in Buddhist meditation, Chad.  Nor have you invested enough time studying modern science, or tea leaves or horoscopes or . . .

I guarantee that 100% of the people here think it's crystal clear that you haven't invested enough of yourself in understanding the atheist positions they've put forward, and that it is your bias, not your in-depth inquiry, which leads you to make your conclusions.

The difference is that I am not going around claiming that Buddhist meditation is ineffective or that some elaborate physical theory is wrong. I have invested the time and sought experts to understand Scholastic philosophy. My opinion of the 5W's veracity comes from a position of knowledge. When critics present straw man arguments, like they always do, then they profess to know (perfectly no less) what they do not actually understand. Such are the true hypocrites.
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#76
RE: Debate Challenge
(November 17, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Hey rhythm wonna moderate this roasti....ERM...debate.

Think we have an SOP on how that gets handled(?).   It wouldn't be the worst use of my forum no-lifing time, clearing up outstanding debates. Seems to be more of an admin thing, than a mod thing, though. Reds make the decision, greens pound the ground. I dutifully serve at the discretion of our crimson commanders, as ever. Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#77
RE: Debate Challenge
The privilege of the officer classes since the dawn of time. Don't forget my port and lemon after you've swept the parade ground.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#78
RE: Debate Challenge
Hooah.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#79
RE: Debate Challenge
(November 18, 2015 at 10:40 am)Stimbo Wrote: The privilege of the officer classes since the dawn of time. Don't forget my port and lemon after you've swept the parade ground.

Is that you offering stimbo?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#80
RE: Debate Challenge
Offering Stimbo?

As every good soldier knows, Rule 1 is "never volunteer for anything".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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