Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans

[Crossless2.0]

so a series of tubes and solar arrays is "cooler."

You are mistaking location for construction. put the two side by side then compare. or better yet let wait a few hundred years and let see what 'cool' does for 'mankind' then.

More than your fucking religion has ever done for mankind, asshole.

Let's not sell religion short, Min. Here are just a few of the many things religion has given humanity that science has never dreamed of supplying:

1) The demon theory of disease

2) Telepathic communication with imaginary beings

3) People who are claimed to have flouted the laws of physics at will (e.g., levitating, walking on water, de-materializing and walking through walls and doors, etc.)

4) A cool story about a global flood

5) Zombies


Take that, science!

[Minimalist]

[Crossless2.0]

If religious bullshit made the flowers grow, the Bible Belt would look like the Dutch countryside at harvest-time.  And that would be the best argument in its favor.  But it isn't even that useful.

[Drich]

I kinda liked the flow of Chapter 9 so I think I will finish out that way, in that I will only quote something that I think may bring confusion.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Chapter 10 1-4
Paul laments the loss of Israel to it's traditions and strict observances to the law. He basically says they simply do not understand that following the law no longer produces righteousness.

5-10 Paul uses a series of OT quotations to explain the reasons why their desire to continue to tow the line rather than seek atonement.

11-13 Paul expresses the unity between all believers in that we are all the same under the grace of God. that no one is 'better' than anyone else.

14&15 is a call to evangelize

16-21 Explains that even if we share the Gospel not everyone will accept it and obey God.

[dyresand]

I kinda liked the flow of Chapter 9 so I think I will finish out that way, in that I will only quote something that I think may bring confusion.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Chapter 10 1-4
Paul laments the loss of Israel to it's traditions and strict observances to the law. He basically says they simply do not understand that following the law no longer produces righteousness.

5-10 Paul uses a series of OT quotations to explain the reasons why their desire to continue to tow the line rather than seek atonement.

11-13 Paul expresses the unity between all believers in that we are all the same under the grace of God. that no one is 'better' than anyone else.

14&15 is a call to evangelize

16-21 Explains that even if we share the Gospel not everyone will accept it and obey God.

Just read this 

http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/188-...-paul.html

there are other sources and places on the internet that even the basis of this explaining why Paul is not a apostle.

[Drich]

I kinda liked the flow of Chapter 9 so I think I will finish out that way, in that I will only quote something that I think may bring confusion.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Chapter 10 1-4
Paul laments the loss of Israel to it's traditions and strict observances to the law. He basically says they simply do not understand that following the law no longer produces righteousness.

5-10 Paul uses a series of OT quotations to explain the reasons why their desire to continue to tow the line rather than seek atonement.

11-13 Paul expresses the unity between all believers in that we are all the same under the grace of God. that no one is 'better' than anyone else.

14&15 is a call to evangelize

16-21 Explains that even if we share the Gospel not everyone will accept it and obey God.

Just read this 

http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/188-...-paul.html

there are other sources and places on the internet that even the basis of this explaining why Paul is not a apostle.

So... In your "mind" this web site has more to say about the validation of Paul, than Peter's own words Vetting Paul and His letters to his churches?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

14 Dear friends, we are waiting for this to happen. So try as hard as you can to be without sin and without fault. Try to be at peace with God. 15 Remember that we are saved because our Lord is patient. Our dear brother Paul told you that same thing when he wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 That’s what he says in all his letters when he writes about these things. There are parts of his letters that are hard to understand, and some people give a wrong meaning to them. These people are ignorant and weak in faith. They also give wrong meanings to the other Scriptures. But they are destroying themselves by doing that.

[Minimalist]

Here you go, drippy.  Here's your paul shit in all its glory as spouted by some baptist fuck who thinks women should do nothing but spread their legs.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/baptist-...g-america/

Baptist pastor commands wives to ‘submit’: The ‘feminist rebellion’ is destroying America

“There is a divine hierarchy in marriage,” Ray explained, reading from the book of Ephesians. “Wives submit to your own husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church.”

And then he added a message from the book of Timothy: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.”

Of course, Ephesians is of dubious authenticity and Timothy is an obvious forgery.  I'm sure none of that even slows you down in your race to inhale all the paul shit you can dig up.

[dyresand]

Here you go, drippy.  Here's your paul shit in all its glory as spouted by some baptist fuck who thinks women should do nothing but spread their legs.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/baptist-...g-america/

Baptist pastor commands wives to ‘submit’: The ‘feminist rebellion’ is destroying America

“There is a divine hierarchy in marriage,” Ray explained, reading from the book of Ephesians. “Wives submit to your own husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church.”

And then he added a message from the book of Timothy: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.”

Of course, Ephesians is of dubious authenticity and Timothy is an obvious forgery.  I'm sure none of that even slows you down in your race to inhale all the paul shit you can dig up.

Common decency  and bible literalism should never be in the same sentence.

[Drich]

chapter 11 anyone??

[Drich]

Chapter 11 1-12
Paul spent a lot of time (several Chapters) defending the Jews who do not believe and explaining why some are lost. Here he explains those in whom God will save and yet remain Jewish. Again proof that it is not a direct result of what we do or our self appointed titles that saves us but it is the Judgement of Christ based on what is in our hearts. Here In these verses Paul uses parallels from the OT to show that now as in the time of Elisha that certain Jews have turned on God and it may seem like no one follows God, but God keep a 'remnant.' of the people alive and well.

verses 13-24 Answer a question that was asked a while back by one of you "How can gentiles be saved if the covenants were with Israel?

Paul describes the covenant as a Olive tree and a system of roots. The covenant with Israel is a 'good olive tree' while the gentiles are a wild olive tree. The difference between good and wild is not a moral distinction but one pertaining viability/desirability of it's 'fruit.' Fruit being following God.

Paul here is describing the process of "grafting." In farming to 'Graft' a branch means to cut a branch off of one tree and cut one of the host tree's original branches off and tie the 'wild' branch in place of the original branch. This will allow a tree with a well established root system to nourish a branch that may produce a certain type or more fruit than the tree's original branch. given time the host tree will assimilate the new branch as if it were one of it's own. for example in Fl, they sell citrus trees that yield navel oranges, lemons, pink grape fruit, and tangerines. all from one tree.

Towards the end of this bank of scripture Paul warns the 'grafted branches/gentiles' That if God did not spare the original branches for not bearing fruit, then he would not spare the grafted on branches either.

25-32 Paul ties his analogy up explaining that the Jews were the original branches and the gentiles the wild grafted branches, and that given time God would eventually tie the original branches back onto the tree, but in the mean while the jews were cut off so as to make room for the rest of the world. In doing so we should not hate or think we are better than the jews but be thankful for their sacrifice.

33-36 that we should also thank God for all that he has done to make us able to be grafted in even if we do not fully understand how it all works.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV