Mixed sex handshakes banned in somalia

[downbeatplumb]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12138627

Men and women have been banned from shaking hands in a district of Somalia controlled by the Islamist group al-Shabab.

Under the ban imposed in the southern town of Jowhar, men and women who are not related are also barred from walking together or chatting in public.

Notice they can apparently justify this using Sharia law. The most restrictive and despotic laws in the world.

[Minimalist]

Crazy motherfuckers.

[Skipper]

Saw this earlier...not even surprised any more, Islam is a stupid fucking religion.

[Rayaan]

It's already established in Islam that shaking hands with the opposite gender should be avoided if possible. The only difference in the news story is that this has been incorporated into the state law in Somalia. Nevertheless, I don't approve this because shaking hands with the opposite gender is disliked (makrooh) but not strictly prohibited (i.e. not haram). I didn't come across any clear textual evidence in Islam which supports that such an action is punishable.

The reason why handshaking with the opposite gender is a bad thing in Islam is because doing this can sometimes have an effect of heightening our desires and sensory enjoyment. We are supposed to guard our senses from getting too much pleasure from sexual attractiveness. For example, a Muslim guy is not supposed to look at a female in a lustful or passionate way, because if he does this, then his eyes will be committing a sin. Similarly, shaking hands with the opposite gender could also be sinful if it creates a little too much satisfaction in our hearts.

There are also Muslims who believe that shaking hands with the opposite gender is permissible as long as there are no desires or enjoyment involved in the action.

I also read somewhere that there was a Muslim who used to carry a napkin in his pocket so that in case if he had to shake hands with a female, well, you know what he would do. He would shake her hands under the napkin. Then obviously he would tell her what is the reason for such an odd behavior without feeling embarrassed at all.

[Zen Badger]

It's already established in Islam that shaking hands with the opposite gender should be avoided if possible. The only difference in the news story is that this has been incorporated into the state law in Somalia. Nevertheless, I don't approve this because shaking hands with the opposite gender is disliked (makrooh) but not strictly prohibited (i.e. not haram). I didn't come across any clear textual evidence in Islam which supports that such an action is punishable.

The reason why handshaking with the opposite gender is a bad thing in Islam is because doing this can sometimes have an effect of heightening our desires and sensory enjoyment. We are supposed to guard our senses from getting too much pleasure from sexual attractiveness. For example, a Muslim guy is not supposed to look at a female in a lustful or passionate way, because if he does this, then his eyes will be committing a sin. Similarly, shaking hands with the opposite gender could also be sinful if it creates a little too much satisfaction in our hearts.

There are also Muslims who believe that shaking hands with the opposite gender is permissible as long as there are no desires or enjoyment involved in the action.

I also read somewhere that there was a Muslim who used to carry a napkin in his pocket so that in case if he had to shake hands with a female, well, you know what he would do. He would shake her hands under the napkin. Then obviously he would tell her what is the reason for such an odd behavior without feeling embarrassed at all.

And you wonder why we don't take your religion seriously.

I think the real reason he carried a napkin was to clean up the mess in his pants after shaking hands with a woman, just too,too much sexual gratification

[KichigaiNeko]

I'm with Zen on this one...
Question...
1. You are so unsure of yourselves that you invoke this petty, childish, ridiculous law??
2. You are so scared (of the unknown) that you invoke this ridiculous and petty, childish law?
3. You have the most petty and childishly ridiculous god in all of mankind's imaginings; that you invoke this stupid law??

Islam is afraid of it's own shadow....stupid people who allow this to occur...and to think that Persia and the Middle East gave us Mathematics and the concept of zero...pffffft!!

[Skipper]

The reason why handshaking with the opposite gender is a bad thing in Islam is because doing this can sometimes have an effect of heightening our desires and sensory enjoyment. We are supposed to guard our senses from getting too much pleasure from sexual attractiveness. For example, a Muslim guy is not supposed to look at a female in a lustful or passionate way, because if he does this, then his eyes will be committing a sin. Similarly, shaking hands with the opposite gender could also be sinful if it creates a little too much satisfaction in our hearts.

Fucking listen to yourself.

[Ashendant]

I'm with Zen on this one...
Question...
1. You are so unsure of yourselves that invoke this petty, childish, ridiculous law??
2. You are so scared (of the unknown) that you invoke this ridiculous and petty, childish law?
3. You have the most petty and childishly ridiculous god in all of mankind's imaginings; that you invoke this stupid law??

Islam is afraid of it's own shadow....stupid people who allow this to occur...and to think that Persia and the Middle East gave us Mathematics and the concept of zero...pffffft!!

Seriously WTF is up with that...

[downbeatplumb]

It's already established in Islam that shaking hands with the opposite gender should be avoided if possible. The only difference in the news story is that this has been incorporated into the state law in Somalia. Nevertheless, I don't approve this because shaking hands with the opposite gender is disliked (makrooh) but not strictly prohibited (i.e. not haram). I didn't come across any clear textual evidence in Islam which supports that such an action is punishable.

The reason why handshaking with the opposite gender is a bad thing in Islam is because doing this can sometimes have an effect of heightening our desires and sensory enjoyment. We are supposed to guard our senses from getting too much pleasure from sexual attractiveness. For example, a Muslim guy is not supposed to look at a female in a lustful or passionate way, because if he does this, then his eyes will be committing a sin. Similarly, shaking hands with the opposite gender could also be sinful if it creates a little too much satisfaction in our hearts.

There are also Muslims who believe that shaking hands with the opposite gender is permissible as long as there are no desires or enjoyment involved in the action.

I also read somewhere that there was a Muslim who used to carry a napkin in his pocket so that in case if he had to shake hands with a female, well, you know what he would do. He would shake her hands under the napkin. Then obviously he would tell her what is the reason for such an odd behavior without feeling embarrassed at all.

And this seems ok to you?

Your religion would appear to be even more petty than I thought it was, and I thought it was bad already already.

[Rayaan]

It seems okay to me because there's a sensible reason behind it.
But, I don't agree that a country should make the rule so strict as to even punish them for such a minor thing like shaking hands.

I'm in the position which supports the following opinion:

"Also, it is preferable for the pious Muslim, male or female, not to stretch out his/her hand to shake the hand of anyone of the opposite sex who is not mahram. But if he/she is put in a situation that someone stretches out his/her hand to shake hands with him/her, then he/she can do that." - Shaking Hands with Women: An Islamic Perspective