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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 9:31 pm
Quote:The religiously unaffiliated number 1.1 billion, accounting for about one-in-six (16%) people worldwide. The religiously unaffiliated include atheists, agnostics and people who do not identify with any particular religion in surveys. However, many of the religiously unaffiliated have some religious beliefs. For example, belief in God or a higher power is shared by 7% of Chinese unaffiliated adults, 30% of French unaffiliated adults and 68% of unaffiliated U.S. adults. Some of the unaffiliated also engage in certain kinds of religious practices. For example, 7% of unaffiliated adults in France and 2 7% of those in the United States say they attend religious services at least once a year. And in China, 44% of unaffiliated adults say they have worshiped at a graveside or tomb in the past year.
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/globa...ffiliated/
Note that not all affiliated are theists; there are atheist religions such as Buddhism.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm
None of those "references" were capable of confirming that every single person on earth were asked if they believe in god.
Furthermore, the OP cites specifically that 90% of the WORLD believes in god. And not just any god. Not just "A god", but god. So really, I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer to my question.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:31 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (December 11, 2015 at 9:08 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: I don't think you honestly are or believe those things. You just have biases and feelings and you can't reconcile them with reality. b-mine.
....sounds alot like religion to me.......... 
I honestly am those things..btw. I make no argument as to any of them being true, but for me, they are - regardless.
I believe you believe you believe that. But I don't think you really do.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(December 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: None of those "references" were capable of confirming that every single person on earth were asked if they believe in god.
Furthermore, the OP cites specifically that 90% of the WORLD believes in god. And not just any god. Not just "A god", but god. So really, I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer to my question.
Surveys don't work like that. You can't yet ask all people. But such statistics do have margins of errors, you know. It's pretty reliable science, anyway.
Sounds to me like you're splitting hairs and refusing to read between the lines. More or less, he's right. A majority of people are idiots, if I may borrow Min's charisma for a moment.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:38 pm
I'm ready to continue that earlier conversation if anyone else is up to it.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:48 pm
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:54 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2015 at 11:14 pm by Excited Penguin.)
(December 11, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (December 11, 2015 at 9:08 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: I don't think you honestly are or believe those things. You just have biases and feelings and you can't reconcile them with reality. b-mine.
....sounds alot like religion to me..........
I honestly am those things..btw. I make no argument as to any of them being true, but for me, they are - regardless.
What did I say about editing your own replies in that way... Sigh.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 10:56 pm
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 11:27 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2015 at 11:28 pm by Joods.)
Bold below is mine.
I couldn't fix the quoting, but you see where my words are.
(December 11, 2015 at 10:36 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: (December 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: None of those "references" were capable of confirming that every single person on earth were asked if they believe in god.
Furthermore, the OP cites specifically that 90% of the WORLD believes in god. And not just any god. Not just "A god", but god. So really, I'm still waiting for a satisfactory answer to my question.
Surveys don't work like that. You can't yet ask all people. But such statistics do have margins of errors, you know. It's pretty reliable science, anyway.
If "you can't yet ask all people", then perhaps the statement about 90% of the world shouldn't be made at all. Stevell wasn't talking about a survey. He stated an opinion (see below)
Quote:SteveII Wrote:If 90% of the world believes in God and 31% (and growing) are Christians,
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I asked for proof that 90% of the world believes in god. I still have not yet had an actual answer to my question. Thing is, if you are going to pass off an opinion as fact, you need to have the proof to back it up. So, if you are going to state the opinion about 90% of the world's population as believing in god, bring the proof or else rephrase your opinion to include the words "I feel" or "I think" or "It's possible that" etc. That way you aren't coming off as someone who has to scramble and backtrack in order to get out of answering a question.
excitedpenguin Wrote:Sounds to me like you're splitting hairs and refusing to read between the lines. More or less, he's right. A majority of people are idiots, if I may borrow Min's charisma for a moment. [/quote]
I am not splitting hairs. He made the opinion as a statement. I merely asked him to provide proof. That's how discussions work. By you assuming "more or less, he's right." is a bold step to make considering you can't even show me actual statistics where every single person on earth has been asked whether or not they believe in god.
Furthermore, a majority of people are idiots, you say? Glass houses my friend, glass houses.
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RE: What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?
December 11, 2015 at 11:30 pm
Ok, lynn, you are officially a stubborn moron. Happy?
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