How did you become an atheist?

[robvalue]

Everything finally fell into place for me when I heard Creationist Cat's version of The Bible Reloaded theme song. Skip to 0:54 or play from the beginning the get the full scoop. If you're not an atheist after hearing this, there is something medically wrong with you and you should seek an immediate slap in the face

http://youtu.be/HCM693vqSV0

[Nay_Sayer]

Although I am devout in my love for FSM Delicate and CL are slowly turning me into a non believer.

Do you ever get tired of pretending?

 If your referencing his holy noodliness, One does not pretend to love him, He knows and he will deliver the Ravioli Rapture one day. 

[dyresand]

Having logic and common sense at a young age after reading the bible none of it made since and what tiny
bit of faith i had even then after i had finished reading was gone.

[Edwardo Piet]

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Why are you being so obtuse, Evie? My definition is included in the standard one. And I was making it clear what I meant by atheist when I made the thread. I wouldn't ask about how you became an atheist if I was talking to the people who were "born atheists" - which is everyone, right? But, ok, claiming you were always an atheist is fine, even if extremely unlikely and incorrect either way since you can't make an informed decision about something like that as a child. Saying someone is born an atheist because they don't believe in Gods is merely used by older atheists to point out the fact that religion is taught and not necessarily something you're born with. Yet that point becomes moot with skeptics who think we're all religious to some degree and we'll never get rid of it(which is mere laziness, if you ask me). Point is, it's ridiculous to point out that you're born an atheist. It's like saying you were born an asexual. Well, most of us develop a sexuality eventually.

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Look, I'm not being obtuse I'm being technically correct: There is no sub-definition of "atheist" that means "used to be a theist but lost belief in god", no definition of "atheist" specifies specifically loss of belief in gods.

Point is I didn't become an atheist, but I am an atheist and I'm an atheist by every definition of the word itself.

And the type of "atheist" I am by every definition, is a weak atheist. But regardless, by any definition of "atheist" I am an atheist, and I don't think I've ever believed in god.

[Edwardo Piet]

Let's be honest here, some of you took the chance to be an asshole about my questions to prove what? That you can't ask somebody about their atheism because they're born with it? Isn't that kind of narrow-minded?

If you're talking about me here:

1. I'm not being an asshole, I'm telling you why I think you're wrong that I'm not an atheist just because I never believed in god.

2. I never said you can't ask me about it, that's why I told you about it.

3. I am not narrow-minded... but perhaps you are if you think someone is an asshole just because they disagree with you.

[Excited Penguin]

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Why are you being so obtuse, Evie? My definition is included in the standard one. And I was making it clear what I meant by atheist when I made the thread. I wouldn't ask about how you became an atheist if I was talking to the people who were "born atheists" - which is everyone, right? But, ok, claiming you were always an atheist is fine, even if extremely unlikely and incorrect either way since you can't make an informed decision about something like that as a child. Saying someone is born an atheist because they don't believe in Gods is merely used by older atheists to point out the fact that religion is taught and not necessarily something you're born with. Yet that point becomes moot with skeptics who think we're all religious to some degree and we'll never get rid of it(which is mere laziness, if you ask me). Point is, it's ridiculous to point out that you're born an atheist. It's like saying you were born an asexual. Well, most of us develop a sexuality eventually.

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Look, I'm not being obtuse I'm being technically correct: There is no sub-definition of "atheist" that means "used to be a theist but lost belief in god", no definition of "atheist" specifies specifically loss of belief in gods.

Point is I didn't become an atheist, but I am an atheist and I'm an atheist by every definition of the word itself.

And the type of "atheist" I am by every definition, is a weak atheist. But regardless, by any definition of "atheist" I am an atheist, and I don't think I've ever believed in god.

It's an underlying meaning of the word. Many atheists happen to be former theists, that's a fact. 

Instead of arguing about this so much why don't you tell me how you would've phrased the wording of this thread so as not to sound too pedantic and at the same time be accurate enough so as not to attract wiseass remarks? Constructive criticism instead of pointing out obvious stuff and lingering on the meaning of words I fully comprehend without you giving me a lecture about it. It's another thing altogether that you have such a low opinion of my intelect that you think I don't understand what you're trying so hard to convey, but I'll overlook that in the interest of making some progress, instead of bickering about meaningless stuff.

[Excited Penguin]

Let's be honest here, some of you took the chance to be an asshole about my questions to prove what? That you can't ask somebody about their atheism because they're born with it? Isn't that kind of narrow-minded?

If you're talking about me here:

1. I'm not being an asshole, I'm telling you why I think you're wrong that I'm not an atheist just because I never believed in god.

2. I never said you can't ask me about it, that's why I told you about it.

3. I am not narrow-minded... but perhaps you are if you think someone is an asshole just because they disagree with you.

Or perhaps you explode every little thing I say for dramatic effect.

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm hardly dramatic. This didn't have to be complicated. When you objected to the definition of "atheist" I was using and I explained I'm an atheist in every sense of the word, it's not my definition, it's the dictionary's definition, you could have just admitted you were wrong... And then that would have been the end of it.

Point is, yes I never became an atheist, but I'm still as much of an atheist as anyone else. Are you going to admit that?

This was my quibble with the question in the first place: It assumes everyone used to previously be a theist. It's a loaded question. It should instead be something like: "Former theists who lost your belief, how did you lose it?".

The problem is always that you have trouble admitting when you're wrong and conceding a point, and you call me an "asshole" for merely disagreeing with you. I am not an asshole. At all.

[Excited Penguin]

I'm hardly dramatic. This didn't have to be complicated. When you objected to the definition of "atheist" I was using and I explained I'm an atheist in every sense of the word, it's not my definition, it's the dictionary's definition, you could have just admitted you were wrong... And then that would have been the end of it.

Point is, yes I never became an atheist, but I'm still as much of an atheist as anyone else. Are you going to admit that?

This was my quibble with the question in the first place: It assumes everyone used to previously be a theist. It's a loaded question. It should instead be something like: "Former theists who lost your belief, how did you lose it?".

The problem is always that you have trouble admitting when you're wrong and conceding a point, and you call me an "asshole" for merely disagreeing with you. I am not an asshole. At all.

The dictionary definition doesn't have to point out that it describes ex-theists too for you to understand that it does. And as such I was referring to that subset definition in this thread. 

At the end of the day, you're still an asshole for taking issue with it. Very much so.

I shouldn't have to include you in my thread for you to take a hint that it's not about you.

[Excited Penguin]

I always admit when I'm wrong. You never seem to understand my point in order to call me out on being wrong to begin with. The problem is, I usually understand your points. Because I'm apparently smarter.

Go ahead, bitch about how I'm being narcisstic or something like that. And I'll make fun of you by filling out whatever role you assign to me in your own confusion.