How honest should parents be?

[Foxaèr]

I'm honestly missing the problem with the penguin here. It just seems like a gang attack at this point.

[Ravenshire]

Gotta agree with the earlier "fuck off" to EP.

If you've never been responsible for kids, especially teenagers, you have no place giving advice here!

Fuck off, EP!

[Excited Penguin]

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That made it clear to me you simply failed to understand me and I wouldn't know what to do to remedy that problem for you. I'm not about to go through every single word I said to see which one's meaning escaped you in order to teach you linguistic efficiency. You'll have to go back and read everything I said until you get it, because you clearly misunderstood me at some point. And I'm not about to assume what you did understand instead as that usually prompts remarks about my not making any sense, strawmanning, misleading, insulting, and so on.

There is nothing in my post which shows a lack of understanding.

Why did you mention safe environments? 

You did mention safe environments didn't you?  So I didn't misunderstand that.

Thena said she wasn't too graphic when talking about what happens when children are kidnapped sometimes and so you took that to mean the opposite, that it must have been too graphic.

The opposite meaning to the term not too graphic would be too graphic, so there's no misunderstanding there.

You don't have to go over everything I've said or that you've said it really is just these two things I was asking you to explain.

  It is the most annoying cop out to end an argument with "Well I just can't be bothered to lower myself to teach you why I'm right and you're wrong sorry."

Just two simple questions.

It's not just two simple questions. If I thought I could make sense to you, I would. If I thought you had a good point and I didn't, I would admit that instantly. As it is, I understand where you're going with this and I'm telling you you're missing the mark completely. I don't want to have that conversation and that's all.

[Excited Penguin]

I'm honestly missing the problem with the penguin here.  It just seems like a gang attack at this point.

I appreciate that, I do. Just keep in mind I could be wrong as well.

[paulpablo]

There is nothing in my post which shows a lack of understanding.

Why did you mention safe environments? 

You did mention safe environments didn't you?  So I didn't misunderstand that.

Thena said she wasn't too graphic when talking about what happens when children are kidnapped sometimes and so you took that to mean the opposite, that it must have been too graphic.

The opposite meaning to the term not too graphic would be too graphic, so there's no misunderstanding there.

You don't have to go over everything I've said or that you've said it really is just these two things I was asking you to explain.

  It is the most annoying cop out to end an argument with "Well I just can't be bothered to lower myself to teach you why I'm right and you're wrong sorry."

Just two simple questions.

It's not just two simple questions. If I thought I could make sense to you, I would. If I thought you had a good point and I didn't, I would admit that instantly. As it is, I understand where you're going with this and I'm telling you you're missing the mark completely. I don't want to have that conversation and that's all.

So you're right and I'm wrong and I just won't understand why even if you explain it to me.  Understood.

[Foxaèr]

Gotta agree with the earlier "fuck off" to EP.

If you've never been responsible for kids, especially teenagers, you have no place giving advice here!

Fuck off, EP!

No, fuck that.

One does not need the direct experience with children to know or understand how they should be raised.

After all, we were all once children ourselves, and it is entirely and logically applicable for those without children to be capable of making suggestions toward being raised how they should have been raised.

[Ravenshire]

Good thing I don't much care for your dramas. If you're not able to talk sensibly, it's not my fault. I'm not going to cuddle you during a conversation, you're all adults. I'm not to be faulted for how you choose to react to my imput. Most of the times I find someone taking issue with some underlying gesture of mine, not so much with what I actually write. Well, you'll just have to comprehend my position on the matter. I'm not here to explain myself everytime a lynch mob goes after me for no reason at all.

Unless you're raising kids, shut the fuck up!

[Foxaèr]

Unless you're raising kids, shut the fuck up!

How about you shut the fuck up?

[Losty]

I'm honestly missing the problem with the penguin here.  It just seems like a gang attack at this point.

That's because you're not even paying attention to the thread. What the two of you are discussing is not relevant to this thread nor is it what people are annoyed about. Try actually reading the thread.

[Foxaèr]

That's because you're not even paying attention to the thread. What the two of you are discussing is not relevant to this thread nor is it what people are annoyed about. Try actually reading the thread.

Could you give me a synopsis of what the problem is?