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Poll: William Lane Craig is..
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A conscious, lying charlatan
59.57%
28 59.57%
Sincere, but a lying manipulator, brainwashed to believe "at all costs".
23.40%
11 23.40%
A sincere believer but open to change.
0%
0 0%
A sincere scholar in search of the truth, ready to change.
2.13%
1 2.13%
Other (please explain).
14.89%
7 14.89%
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What do you think of William Lane Craig?
#51
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.
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#52
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
There wasn't an "abhorrent slave of invisible tyrant" option, so I chose 'Other'.
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#53
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
A lobotomised monkey has more intellectual integrity than WLC

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#54
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Evie Wrote: I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.

He's sincere about his lies.
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#55
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Evie Wrote: I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.

He believes that Christianity is true, and that it is okay to lie in "its defense."  Look at the modern Catholic hierarchy and their cover-up of the pedophile scandal as an example.
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#56
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 17, 2016 at 9:57 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Evie Wrote: I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.

He's sincere about his lies.

I doubt he'd successful deceive people with his bullshit if he sincerely told people he was lying.
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#57
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Evie Wrote: I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.

He believes that Christianity is true, and that it is okay to lie in "its defense."  Look at the modern Catholic hierarchy and their cover-up of the pedophile scandal as an example.

Oh right. Well the way it was phrased confused me, to be a "sincere liar" seemed like a contradiction.
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#58
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
I chose other, I tend not to think of those who make a conscious decision to deny reality unless the issue is put to me or I'm otherwise obliged to think of them (e.g. a Hitler figure had arisen in a country of a similar stature to Germany)
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#59
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Evie Wrote: I don't understand option 2 in the poll by the way. How can he be "sincere" if he's a "lying manipulator"? By definition that's not sincere.

He believes that Christianity is true, and that it is okay to lie in "its defense."  Look at the modern Catholic hierarchy and their cover-up of the pedophile scandal as an example.

Yeah, this is spot on I think.

I imagine he knows his beliefs are not logically defensible, which is why he employs such dishonest techniques in justifying them and in debates. He probably has a big dose of cognitive dissidence which appears to affect many religious people.

I don't think he's ever going to convince anyone of anything unless they already believed it. All he wants to do is muddy the water, and get paid to pat believers on the back.
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#60
RE: What do you think of William Lane Craig?
(January 22, 2016 at 6:41 am)robvalue Wrote:
(January 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: He believes that Christianity is true, and that it is okay to lie in "its defense."  Look at the modern Catholic hierarchy and their cover-up of the pedophile scandal as an example.

Yeah, this is spot on I think.

I imagine he knows his beliefs are not logically defensible, which is why he employs such dishonest techniques in justifying them and in debates. He probably has a big dose of cognitive dissidence which appears to affect many religious people.

I don't think he's ever going to convince anyone of anything unless they already believed it. All he wants to do is muddy the water, and get paid to pat believers on the back.

I watched Craig's debates with Professor Lawrence Krauss, the latter who is, IMO, "spot on":

http://lifeuniversenothing.org/

I disagree with Krauss; Craig is a charlatan.  He's making money, tons of it.  Besides, if he would ever "come clean," what would he do for a living?  Used car salesman?  No respectable academic institution would ever give him a job.  Another great debate is where Shermer & Krauss square-off against two Christian theists, Dinesh D'Souza and some other guy, a MIT prof, who comes across as a complete buffoon:

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates...efutes-god
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