For those who want proof of the exodus

[Brian37]

Let me simplify all this for you, since you are still stuck in Candy Land.

It's all made up bullshit. Yours and all god claims in human history. I am sure you like what you believe, but so what. We don't doubt you truly believe what you claim, but we do doubt your perception of reality. The covered olives in the bowl in the dark room at a Halloween party are olives, doesn't matter if someone scared you into believing they were eyeballs. There is no God, and thankfully especially not the bloodthirsty gang leader of Abraham. If you want to believe it sure, you will.

and let me do the same (simplify)
The discussion this movies brings provides 'proof' that 'candy land' is not a made up place. It uses documented vetted existing Egyptian artifacts.

Nope sorry, real places, real people and real objects existing does not make the super natural or magic real. So some people dug up old crap, big deal. Women still do not have virgin births, and humans don't survive the act of torture as the death myth of the Jesus character would intend the reader to believe.

But if you insist on bringing up the Ancient Egyptians, by proxy of your own logic, you should believe in Osiris and Horus and Isis because we have plenty of evidence of their depictions of their polytheistic gods.

We know George Washington existed, but no sane person goes around claiming he could fart a full sized Lamborghini out of his as via "poof". Nor would anyone sane go around claiming he had his head chopped off and "poof" magically came back to life to win the Revolutionary War.

Like I said, bullshit is bullshit, doesn't matter if you pepper that bullshit with real humans and or places. Christianity exists because some mere mortal, or group mortals got tired of the old superstitions and decided to market a new magic book of myth.

Now don't hand me this crap that I am being mean. You already rightfully reject the fantastic claims of the religions of others. I simply reject one more book of myth than you do. Figure that out, then you will understand why we call your claims bullshit too.

[Minimalist]

Let me simplify all this for you, since you are still stuck in Candy Land.

It's all made up bullshit. Yours and all god claims in human history. I am sure you like what you believe, but so what. We don't doubt you truly believe what you claim, but we do doubt your perception of reality. The covered olives in the bowl in the dark room at a Halloween party are olives, doesn't matter if someone scared you into believing they were eyeballs. There is no God, and thankfully especially not the bloodthirsty gang leader of Abraham. If you want to believe it sure, you will.

and let me do the same (simplify)
The discussion this movies brings provides 'proof' that 'candy land' is not a made up place. It uses documented vetted existing Egyptian artifacts.

Learn what "proof" means, you dildo.

One jackass opinion is not proof.

[Cyberman]

Stow that bullshit here and now, Drich. Lie about your magic book all you like; but lie about the motivations of the same people that you depend on to make sure you can keep posting your inanities here and I'll personally kick your arse so hard, your buddy xtians will feel it.

  you changed the rules, don't pretend that what I said did not have any basis or actually reflected a short lived rule.

The new power was proposed solely to enable Staff to respond to to one specific issue of extreme forum disruption, and has since been redrafted precisely because of members' concerns. I for one resent your misrepresentation for personal prestige; not to mention your snide insinuations, which you can shove as deep up your arsehole as the obstruction of your head allows.

[GrandizerII]

Do you not understand that anyone can come up with an alternative theory and find all sorts of evidence for it? Read my responses to athrock. If you can't falsify the much better theory, then your "theory" means jack shit.

AGAIN THAT IS WHAT A DISCUSSION IS!!! Post your 'alternative theory'!

There is NO alternative theory on my part. There is just the mainstream theory that the experts themselves have arrived at through the scientific method. Big problem if you don't trust science, but don't then pretend you're doing science to come up with another theory that's not even a good one ...

[LastPoet]

Learn what "proof" means, you dildo.

Sometimes I feel like a dildo. Its all good.

[Pat Mustard]

Ah, poor drippy, you can never accet that you're wrong. Fact is you condone slavery (which, to my mind is worse than murder) and we don't. Knowing that this is wrong, instead of recanting your earlier immoral and evil views, you try to make out that our position is the same as yours when, in fact, it is the opposite. And that must really kill you, the knowledge that you have deep down that you are a worse person than the godless atheists you've been demonising all your life.

If you weren't such a shit stain, I'd almost feel sorry for you.

OMG...

How is it you are the only one who still does not understand that YOU CONDONE SLAVERY in Practice just by living a life that the work of slaves provides? How is it you still do not understand that just because you re-lable a slave a 'sweat shop employee' or a 'migrant worker or a field hand' does not mean they are not slaves? How is it you STILL do not acknoweledge that definition of Slavery goes far beyond the Chattle Slaves of the 17 and 18th century in North America?
How can you be ignorant of the fact that Slavery is a problem world wide and that an American civil war did not stop Slavery the world over? Are you still so stupid to blindly accept that any product that can be bought or sold can be done so affordably if everyone involved in said product is paid fairly? If So why have production facilities been leaving America (where people were being paid fairly for what they created) to 3rd world countries? where they are paid less than 1/3 of an hourly wage here, for an entire day (12-16 hours) there?

Compounding all of that, now ask yourself what would happen to these people if all of it were to simply stop? What if the world demanded that all workers got a fair wage (what a union worker would get here?) Companies would bring manufacturing back to the US (because their is still shipping costs involved, therefore all else being equal then it would not make sense to manufacture over seas.) Meaning all their jobs would dry up, leaving billions with no way to provide for themselves. Which in a 3rd world country means most of those people would starve and die.

So looking at the reality of all of it I like YOU support slavery (by it's actual definition) However acknowledging my role in it I want to demand that it be highly regulated and treated fairly. Because nothing is written that all slaves must be treated badly. You on the other hand (being a self righteous monster) wants to pretend that just because modern slavery does not meet the stereotype you've been brain washed to identify, it no longer exists. and therefore do not have to concern yourself with any regulation of slavery in the countries which all your 'products' are made. Which literally means slaves today can have it much much worse than the black man you have pictured in a field somewhere when ever you use that word.

You do realise Drich that you've posted a libel actionable under Irish law? The deliberate malicious falsehood that I condone slavery is a writing that if I were interested in abusing the law and had deep pockets I would pursue through the courts.

If you have any morality retract you lying claim and offer a full open and sincere apology in this thread.

[Drich]

OMG...

How is it you are the only one who still does not understand that YOU CONDONE SLAVERY in Practice just by living a life that the work of slaves provides? How is it you still do not understand that just because you re-lable a slave a 'sweat shop employee' or a 'migrant worker or a field hand' does not mean they are not slaves? How is it you STILL do not acknoweledge that definition of Slavery goes far beyond the Chattle Slaves of the 17 and 18th century in North America?
How can you be ignorant of the fact that Slavery is a problem world wide and that an American civil war did not stop Slavery the world over? Are you still so stupid to blindly accept that any product that can be bought or sold can be done so affordably if everyone involved in said product is paid fairly? If So why have production facilities been leaving America (where people were being paid fairly for what they created) to 3rd world countries? where they are paid less than 1/3 of an hourly wage here, for an entire day (12-16 hours) there?

Compounding all of that, now ask yourself what would happen to these people if all of it were to simply stop? What if the world demanded that all workers got a fair wage (what a union worker would get here?) Companies would bring manufacturing back to the US (because their is still shipping costs involved, therefore all else being equal then it would not make sense to manufacture over seas.) Meaning all their jobs would dry up, leaving billions with no way to provide for themselves. Which in a 3rd world country means most of those people would starve and die.

So looking at the reality of all of it I like YOU support slavery (by it's actual definition) However acknowledging my role in it I want to demand that it be highly regulated and treated fairly. Because nothing is written that all slaves must be treated badly. You on the other hand (being a self righteous monster) wants to pretend that just because modern slavery does not meet the stereotype you've been brain washed to identify, it no longer exists. and therefore do not have to concern yourself with any regulation of slavery in the countries which all your 'products' are made. Which literally means slaves today can have it much much worse than the black man you have pictured in a field somewhere when ever you use that word.

You do realise Drich that you've posted a libel actionable under Irish law? The deliberate malicious falsehood that I condone slavery is a writing that if I were interested in abusing the law and had deep pockets I would pursue through the courts.

If you have any morality retract you lying claim and offer a full open and sincere apology in this thread.

 

Do you not buy products made or harvested by people who get paid less that a fair wage/compensation for them? (which is the Oxford/English dictionary of a Slave.) then with every dollar or whatever currency you do spend to obtain these products, you do indeed support the slave trade. Further more it makes you a big giant hypocrite to stand on your high horse and condemn others for what you yourself are doing without objection! What's even worse is your own self-righteousness will not allow you to see; without the modern slave trade billions would starve and die! The solution is not to banish all slavery, but to regulate it. The 'Stoop-id' people of the world need to be made to understand that Slavery is apart of all of our lives like it or not. We have yet been able to even conceive of a money based society without slavery holding up the foundations of said society, let alone create one. The closest thing we have done is to lock the word slavery to a single definition (what was known as chattle slavery) and pretend that if chattle slavery is not happening slavery on mass is not happening. this is propaganda spread by the self righteous.

All d-bags like you do is re-lable modern day slaves so you can pretend you are not apart of a society that condones it. Wake up , man up and "own" your part in modern day slavery so we can collectively demand that they get better treatment, rather than turn a blind eye to it just so you can pretend to be (self) righteous.

Oh, and BTW if you don't want to be apart of this conversation, a conversation that has me pointing out your involvement in modern slavery, then simply do not respond. Know I am not seeking you out specifically, I have no idea who you are sport. I am simply point out inconsistencies in ALL westerns lives when they claim to not be complicit in slavery. Again if YOU do not want to be apart of the conversation simply bow out. Understand I did not call you out, you elected to be apart of this conversation. (douche bag)

[Drich]

  you changed the rules, don't pretend that what I said did not have any basis or actually reflected a short lived rule.

The new power was proposed solely to enable Staff to respond to to one specific issue of extreme forum disruption, and has since been redrafted precisely because of members' concerns. I for one resent your misrepresentation for personal prestige; not to mention your snide insinuations, which you can shove as deep up your arsehole as the obstruction of your head allows.

[Pat Mustard]

Fine shitstain continue with your lying and evil ways. You'd better hope that either your god is fake or created in your image, because anything else and you're in a whole heap of trouble.

And don't be expecting to hear from me any more, you are so far beneath me morally and intellectually there's no point in me trying to converse with you.

Enjoy the sad little excuse you have for a life, the unfulfilled promise, the lack true friends and the deep seated and pants wetting fear you display all too ften.

[Brian37]

You do realise Drich that you've posted a libel actionable under Irish law? The deliberate malicious falsehood that I condone slavery is a writing that if I were interested in abusing the law and had deep pockets I would pursue through the courts.

If you have any morality retract you lying claim and offer a full open and sincere apology in this thread.

 

Do you not buy products made or harvested by people who get paid less that a fair wage/compensation for them? (which is the Oxford/English dictionary of a Slave.) then with every dollar or whatever currency you do spend to obtain these products, you do indeed support the slave trade. Further more it makes you a big giant hypocrite to stand on your high horse and condemn others for what you yourself are doing without objection! What's even worse is your own self-righteousness will not allow you to see; without the modern slave trade billions would starve and die! The solution is not to banish all slavery, but to regulate it. The 'Stoop-id' people of the world need to be made to understand that Slavery is apart of all of our lives like it or not. We have yet been able to even conceive of a money based society without slavery holding up the foundations of said society, let alone create one. The closest thing we have done is to lock the word slavery to a single definition (what was known as chattle slavery) and pretend that if chattle slavery is not happening slavery on mass is not happening. this is propaganda spread by the self righteous.

All d-bags like you do is re-lable modern day slaves so you can pretend you are not apart of a society that condones it. Wake up , man up and "own" your part in modern day slavery so we can collectively demand that they get better treatment, rather than turn a blind eye to it just so you can pretend to be (self) righteous.

Oh, and BTW if you don't want to be apart of this conversation, a conversation that has me pointing out your involvement in modern slavery, then simply do not respond. Know I am not seeking you out specifically, I have no idea who you are sport. I am simply point out inconsistencies in ALL westerns lives when they claim to not be complicit in slavery. Again if YOU do not want to be apart of the conversation simply bow out. Understand I did not call you out, you elected to be apart of this conversation. (douche bag)

What would "modern slavery" prove about any god existing, much less yours, even if we agreed with you. If anything causes humans to use others as forced labor, or sex slaves, still has nothing to do with a sky hero existing. It would be because of lack of economic stability though. Humans that are not desperate and have more of the basics are less likely to be a desperate criminal or a desperate victim.

We also have that "modern slavery" in the form of exploding pay gap. It causes labor to have to work more for less and be at the mercy of big corporations who pass them around like poker chips.