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Still struggling.
RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 8:07 pm)GeneralDog Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 5:02 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Perhaps you should call your therapist directly and explain what's going on?
She wont give me the number, if i try and get it directly, i would have to call up the area (its part of some junction area) and get trasfered

If you're under 18 and she's denying you continuation of your treatment, call 911.
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RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 8:07 pm)GeneralDog Wrote: She wont give me the number, if i try and get it directly, i would have to call up the area (its part of some junction area) and get trasfered

If you're under 18 and she's denying you continuation of your treatment, call 911.
I dont know, i dont like calling 911 about anything, ive been told not to unless its a true emergency.

I dont know
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RE: Still struggling.
GD, here's a nice little exercise for you.

You're gonna kill many birds with one stone.
It will take you a while. Think of it as home schooling.

Go through the book, study, and understand all the various fallacies on Robs link.

Highlight all the fallacies in yellow highlight.
Number every one of them individually.

Get an exercise book. Put the corresponding numbers in there with a brief explanation of the fallacy and why it doesn't make logical sense. This will teach you reading, writing, critical thinking skills, and in the background will slowly evaporate those stubborn lingering thoughts you get from time to time.

You don't need to show anybody.... Forget the ego. This is about GeneralDog becoming:

MajorGenerallDog! Chainsaw of logic#2.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Still struggling.
Guys, I think this is a solid case for using the 911 system given (and IF) the following is true:

A minor patient in the custody of his mother has seen a qualified mental health professional, and it is that professional's opinion that he be treated with a pharmacological treatment program for pervasive (that's a characterization of the effects caused by the disease, GD, not of you) OCD.

The patient's mother is now, without consulting any qualified mental health practitioners, arbitrarily withholding the recommended treatment, while barring the patient's further access to said professional, or any others with legal qualifications to decide on the same.

The consequences of the mother's actions are resulting in increasing mental instability for the patient, constituting an abuse of her role as his legal guardian.

Given that all of the above is true, it looks like a 911 call is more than justified, but I'm not a lawyer. If anyone here knows the law, I think GD needs your advice on whether such a call would result in a required follow-up from CPS officials with his prescribing health care provider, and whether said provider would be required to provide them access to his records, which would contain that professional opinion for the treatment. On account of his minor status, he cannot legally waive the non-disclosure laws which apply, and I would consider just how effectively his mother could obstruct the process of obtaining such needed proof before advising him to pull the trigger. The consequences regarding his future at home would be difficult enough for him to deal with one way or the other, and he may end up in foster care if successful with the considered move, but I think what matters most right now is whether such a move would result in him getting the treatment which he needs.
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RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 9:32 pm)GeneralDog Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: If you're under 18 and she's denying you continuation of your treatment, call 911.
I dont know, i dont like calling 911 about anything, ive been told not to unless its a true emergency.

I dont know

Well, it's up to you. Just remember it's there if you need it. It may be hard, but I think it would be worth it if you're being denied medication and therapy. You need help. That's what it's there for.
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RE: Still struggling.
I have never seen more delusional posts in one forum than this. You are actually convincing this kid to call 911 on his parents for this? Clearly nothing but a pile of collectivist social justice warriors who don't know what they hell they are talking about, or actually trying to destroy him. Listen General Dog, you are going to bring the authorities to your home, and will likely as a minor be taken from your home and put into the Child Protective Services where you will be exposed to things you don't want to experience, and in the end fuck up your family. You are obviously too young and sheltered to know what's about to happen to you, but I've been around the block for many years, and trust me the last thing you want to do is this BS. You need to talk to your parents seriously, about what you are going through. If you identify as an atheist, that's up to you.
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RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 10:32 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I have never seen more delusional posts in one forum than this. You are actually convincing this kid to call 911 on his parents for this? Clearly nothing but a pile of collectivist social justice warriors who don't know what they hell they are talking about, or actually trying to destroy him. Listen General Dog, you are going to bring the authorities to your home, and will likely as a minor be taken from your home and put into the Child Protective Services where you will be exposed to things you don't want to experience, and in the end fuck up your family. You are obviously too young and sheltered to know what's about to happen to you, but I've been around the block for many years, and trust me the last thing you want to do is this BS. You need to talk to your parents seriously, about what you are going through. If you identify as an atheist, that's up to you.

I'd recommend the same if I believed he was being molested at home. In a very important way, he is.

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RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 10:53 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 10:32 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I have never seen more delusional posts in one forum than this. You are actually convincing this kid to call 911 on his parents for this? Clearly nothing but a pile of collectivist social justice warriors who don't know what they hell they are talking about, or actually trying to destroy him. Listen General Dog, you are going to bring the authorities to your home, and will likely as a minor be taken from your home and put into the Child Protective Services where you will be exposed to things you don't want to experience, and in the end fuck up your family. You are obviously too young and sheltered to know what's about to happen to you, but I've been around the block for many years, and trust me the last thing you want to do is this BS. You need to talk to your parents seriously, about what you are going through. If you identify as an atheist, that's up to you.

I'd recommend the same if I believed he was being molested at home. In a very important way, he is.

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No it's time for you to fuck off! You are clearly a child yourself and from a broken home. It's time for an adult to step in. Religion aside you people are nothing but a bad influence. This kid is unstable, and doesn't need you to fuck up his world.
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RE: Still struggling.
(February 18, 2016 at 10:59 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(February 18, 2016 at 10:53 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: I'd recommend the same if I believed he was being molested at home. In a very important way, he is.

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No it's time for you to fuck off! You are clearly a child yourself and from a broken home. It's time for an adult to step in. Religion aside you people are nothing but a bad influence. This kid is unstable, and doesn't need you to fuck up his world.

If I could find out who you are, and of any children under your care, I would move to protect them against your self-obsessive evil no less! 

As for GD, the idea to call 911 wasn't originally mine, and I attempted temper it responsibly, because I would hate nothing more than to see him legally crushed by his insane and very abusive mother, should he decide to make such a move. Since none of us probably know for sure who anybody here really is, it's hard to predict how our advice would play out, but if in fact GD's mother arbitrarily decided to discontinue professionally recommended medical treatment, and is using his declining condition as leverage, and you say this would not be actionable child abuse, then you need to leave that boy alone. If you address one more single word to GD, who has asked you on numerous occasions to desist, then you will not do so without appropriate consequences from the community here. Consider that a warning, and one which I'll admit I hope you ignore completely, because I want to be the one to report you for mod action when you finally slip up good enough.
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RE: Still struggling.
I would also advise against calling the police; Scooby is right about some of the likely ramifications.

That said, it might be possible for us to track down and get in touch with his therapist via the resources available here, online. A simple call to the therapist, asking him to go visit the kid, would likely result in him being able to convey the problem. Then, if there's something that needs to be done about it, a professional (therapists are what are called "Mandated Reporters", meaning they must report crimes or abuse if they encounter it, and they are trained to recognize those situations and how to handle them) can do what is best for him.

I was thrown out of my parents' house at 17 because I ceased to be a Christian (wasn't even an atheist, yet!), and it was well over a decade before I developed cordial relations with them again. Avoid that, if you can, friend. Had I caught this thread sooner, I'd have advised you to "stay in the closet" about your beliefs until you leave the home. Sad
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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