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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 5:11 pm
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(March 13, 2016 at 5:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's why I quoted him.
I'm glad you did. That was the best laugh I've had in quite a while.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 5:17 pm
You need more laughs, amigo.
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 5:23 pm
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(March 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:and what's more proof than God himself condescending himself down to being a human?
That's not "proof" you dumb fuck. That's an idiotic assertion. I imagine if Jesus returned and showed himself to the world again and left, in another 2000 years there would probably be another idiot saying the exact same thing.
(March 13, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (March 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's not "proof" you dumb fuck. That's an idiotic assertion.
Wait wait wait... he said that? He seriously used the word "condescending" in the context of "God" coming down to Earth? Did you learn nothing from Pandæmonium?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/condescending?s=t
Quote:condescend
3. to put aside one's dignity or superiority voluntarily and assume equality with one regarded as inferior:
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 5:55 pm
(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's not "proof" you dumb fuck. That's an idiotic assertion. I imagine if Jesus returned and showed himself to the world again and left, in another 2000 years there would probably be another idiot saying the exact same thing.
(March 13, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Wait wait wait... he said that? He seriously used the word "condescending" in the context of "God" coming down to Earth? Did you learn nothing from Pandæmonium?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/condescending?s=t
Quote:condescend
3. to put aside one's dignity or superiority voluntarily and assume equality with one regarded as inferior:
1. No one has any proof of a magical baby zombie jew named jesus nexisted.
2. Why would a all powerful being need to show himself to the world anyways
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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(March 13, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (March 13, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Wait wait wait... he said that? He seriously used the word "condescending" in the context of "God" coming down to Earth? Did you learn nothing from Pandæmonium?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/condescending?s=t
Quote:condescend
3. to put aside one's dignity or superiority voluntarily and assume equality with one regarded as inferior:
That emboldened part is the active ingredient to the meaning. Viz:
Quote:show that one feels superior; be patronizing.
"take care not to condescend to your reader"
do something in such a way as to emphasize that one clearly regards it as below one's dignity or level of importance.
"he condescended to see me at my hotel"
While it does carry the meaning of descent, it's not a physical change of elevation but a lowering of one's sense of superiority.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 6:30 pm
(March 13, 2016 at 6:20 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (March 13, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Did you learn nothing from Pandæmonium?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/condescending?s=t
That emboldened part is the active ingredient to the meaning. Viz:
Quote:show that one feels superior; be patronizing.
"take care not to condescend to your reader"
do something in such a way as to emphasize that one clearly regards it as below one's dignity or level of importance.
"he condescended to see me at my hotel"
While it does carry the meaning of descent, it's not a physical change of elevation but a lowering of one's sense of superiority.
What about my post makes you think I was speaking of elevation? I said God condescend himself down to being human; as in from a position of superiority to an inferior one.
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 6:37 pm
The unconventional wording of your post ("If you want to believe the way Jesus was portrayed was fictional, fine; the funny thing is you all ask for proof, and what's more proof than God himself condescending himself down to being a human?") led me to get the impression that you were using the word to mean a physical descent. On review, I can accept that you meant otherwise and am happy to give you the benefit of the doubt.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 13, 2016 at 11:54 pm
(March 13, 2016 at 4:56 am)Huggy74 Wrote: No, the subject is about "teaching children about Jesus at a young age", which you guys turned into being about indoctrination.
I realize you're behind a thick wall of bias here, Huggy, but get real. An impressionable child is told -as truth- that a god, made-flesh, walked the earth performing miracles and espousing common sense and commands from on high alike and then died to save them from a fate worse than death... what do you expect us to call that?
I say "as truth" because you really can't expect me to believe that the vast majority of Christian parents don't do their Christian duty and try to "save" their children from damnation. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule but I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar they are few and far between, and they aren't the ones I would take issue with.
Quote:My original point was that for the Christian, there is no commandment but to love everyone, even the undeserving. For if you only love the deserving, where is the reward? No one deserves God's love, yet he loved you anyway; And THAT"S what being a Christian is about, 'to Be like Christ'.
*my bold*
You will find many Christians who disagree with that first portion in bold, but, again, that's beside the point even if it were true.
As for the second, if you wish to love those who will only answer it with contempt, violence and abuse then feel free to do so. The only reward I can see is the twisted sense of self-serving martyrdom and a boat-load of heartache.
Quote:No one deserves God's love, yet he loved you anyway; And THAT"S what being a Christian is about, 'to Be like Christ'.
This is one of the things I find most repulsive about Christianity. It sees us as wretched, inherently unworthy, creatures but God supposedly loves us unconditionally. Yet we are met with conditions. We must suspend our critical thinking and embrace what can't be proven with all that we are, and if we don't we burn for it.
To take from Hitchens; within the scope of Christianity we are made sick and commanded to be well, and that's utterly unacceptable.
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 14, 2016 at 12:50 am
(March 13, 2016 at 4:56 am)Huggy74 Wrote: No, the subject is about "teaching children about Jesus at a young age", which you guys turned into being about indoctrination.
You make it so hard not to laugh, Huggy. To indoctrinate is to "teach" so the subject is right on track. It is you who is derailed.
" Indoctrination often refers to religious ideas, when you're talking about a religious environment that doesn't let you question or criticize those beliefs. The Latin word for "teach," doctrina is the root of indoctrinate, and originally that's just what it meant.
indoctrination - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
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*bolding mine to show emphasis on the obvious.
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 14, 2016 at 2:36 am
Have any theists here owned their religious beliefs when talking to their children, rather than just telling them to believe it too?
I'll be very impressed if so. It appears to be a rare thing.
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