Christian answering questions.

[Mister Agenda]

"Eternity as it relates to God" - there is no afterlife.  There is no God.  
You will have to prove to me that a deity exists before any of the gibberish that followed those statements will have any meaning or relevance.  We need either hard data or have the guy finally show up and prove his own existence.  You would think that would be an easy thing for the creature that created billions of galaxies.

 It would be simple for Him to show up as show himself to you, but you would fall over dead at seeing His glory, what good would that do. God has said everyone will understand that I exist by looking at nature, that no one will be without excuse. So making up excuses is a exercise in futility. Actually I don't believe you have an answer to my questions, do you.

GC

So showing himself without killing people is another of those things your omnipotent God can't do?

That's a particularly interesting stance considering that he makes two personal appearances in the Bible without anyone dying (although in one all the witness got to see was God's backside).

Peter said that, not God. And using Bible quotes on atheists is an exercise in futility. What weight do quotes from the Koran carry with you? They're supposed to be verbatim from God (from God to Gabriel to Mohammed), not just a man saying something in a letter later collected into a book and covered by fiat when the whole book is declared to be the word of God. What would you think of the intelligence of someone who tried to convince you with Koran quotes in advance of convincing you that they are true first?

[Jackalope]

I didn't call myself a Bright, so I can't provide proof for something I didn't say.

Nobody claimed that.

What you did say is that "you people call yourself Brights", or some such nonsense.

That's the claim I asked you to back up, which you've spectacularly failed at.

[drfuzzy]

"Eternity as it relates to God" - there is no afterlife.  There is no God.  
You will have to prove to me that a deity exists before any of the gibberish that followed those statements will have any meaning or relevance.  We need either hard data or have the guy finally show up and prove his own existence.  You would think that would be an easy thing for the creature that created billions of galaxies.

 It would be simple for Him to show up as show himself to you, but you would fall over dead at seeing His glory, what good would that do. God has said everyone will understand that I exist by looking at nature, that no one will be without excuse. So making up excuses is a exercise in futility. Actually I don't believe you have an answer to my questions, do you.

GC

In other words, "My imaginary friend is so big and scawwy you wouldn't even be able to look at any incarnation he would present, so your request for proof and data is stupid, you little poopy head. Never mind that he only talks to a few of us, and that nobody has been able to present any proof that he exists for over 2000 years.  And - nature is all the proof we need.  Someone had to create it, therefore, god."  (The classic tired old argument from ignorance.)  -- My answer: If your god was able to create the universe, than he can manage to provide some proof of his existence. He doesn't need YOU to make excuses for why there is no real proof that he exists.  If he does need a human mouthpiece, then he's pretty incompetent and weak.

I'm not here to answer your questions. Ask your imaginary friend that talks to you inside your head.

[Brian37]

Yes, yes, we know, that you trust people, who make unsubstantiated claims regarding the universe, demand money and political power, on the basis of those claims and shelter child-rapists. That's because you sold your reason and your dignity for some magic beans. Well done...  

 Sonny I'm not a Catholic and if I were I would condemn those priest as I do now, it's my moral position. You have no proof how the universe started and Christians have as much right to be in the political arena as atheist do. My dignity belongs to God to judge not you.

GC

You stupidly think Catholic Priests are the only holy people who molest kids? You might argue for a long time they were more organized at hiding it.

But see, that is what religion teaches, every religion, not just Catholics. Humans mainly get indoctrinated at birth to the religion of the societies they are born in. That social structure provides the family a community, and for the most part humans are not bad, but when someone in their ranks does do something bad, the rest will blindly protect that leader because "nobody in my label can do bad".

Baptists have been caught too. Imams and Buddhist Monks have too. But even outside the issue of religion, a child molester or rapist, is does not look like a monster in a horror movie. Criminals like that rely on everyone thinking they are normal, and use positions of power and trust to get access to their victims, and the perps can be anyone, cops, firemen, lawyers, teachers. Criminals, even outside sexual assault, rely on stealth and looking normal.

Religions all do the same thing inside and outside the issue of rape, not just rape. When that person in power, or the group is called out on a bad act, the rest circle the wagons and assume there is no way it could happen because of the person's "faith".

Problem is, if labels had that magic power, or a book of any religion had that magic power, there would be no prisons in that nation, but every nation has prisons, friend and foe alike.

Glad you would condemn them. But that isn't your "faith" doing it, or a bible doing it, that is YOU doing it. That morality is in your evolution.

[Joods]

May I ask what background that is?

Not really important for this thread. Ask questions relating to Christianity, evolution, the truth about God, etc. Personal questions about me should be limited as they do not contribute.

It is absolutely important to know your background because you believe in the truth based on your own testimony. Did you honestly come on to these forums expecting the majority to believe you based on your word? That's laughable, at best.

Sorry, not sorry. You will get interrogated because, well, you asked for it.

So... I'm not going to read back through a few dozen pages of stuff.

But I'd like to know, our little young earth creationist:

How do you explain fossils that are tens of thousands of years old?
Or pottery that's just as old?
What are your thoughts, on carbon dating?
What about dinosaur bones that have been found to be hundreds of thousands of years old?
Do you believe wholeheartedly in the story of the ark? If so, I have more questions for you. But for now, let's start with the ones I've already asked.

[Brian37]

 I didn't call myself a Bright, so I can't provide proof for something I didn't say.

 Great to hear and you've got the smoking defeated, congratulations, have a sip, dance and be happy!

GC

No one said or implied that you called yourself a Bright.

I'm no fan of avoiding he "a" word like some atheists do. Some call themselves "freethinkers" others call themselves "humanists" which actually isn't exclusive to atheists, although most are, and others call themselves "Brights".

I don't like even saying "I am an atheist"....... No, "atheist" is the position of "off" that I hold. I am a human. And since not even atheists agree all the time, you'd still find divisions even with those labels above.

[abaris]

It is absolutely important to know your background because you believe in the truth based on your own testimony. Did you honestly come on to these forums expecting the majority to believe you based on your word? That's laughable, at best.

No use. That bird already has flown after seeing that his preaching didn't find any resonance.

[drfuzzy]

It is absolutely important to know your background because you believe in the truth based on your own testimony. Did you honestly come on to these forums expecting the majority to believe you based on your word? That's laughable, at best.

No use. That bird already has flown after seeing that his preaching didn't find any resonance.

Yeah.  He thought his imaginary friend was going to help him out here.  Just like Jeebus on the cross.  Oopsie.

[Cyberman]

GC, if you send me a hundred bucks, I guarantee you a life that is going to be so good it's indescribable. Are you going to send me the money? If not, why not? I should add that if you don't, your home will blow up killing you and your loved ones.

I know your question wasn't addressed to me, but since it's the kind of thing you ask: I read the Bible cover-to-cover twice, starting with the KJV and then The Living Bible. I honestly couldn't say how many times I've read Genesis and the Gospels and Acts. Having done so has a lot to do with why I'm an atheist today.

 What kind of guarantee comes with this and you know when I posted something like this in jest I was warned never to do it again, is that going to happen with you or does partiality take place because you're an atheist.

Reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit's guidance will leave you with as much understanding as you had before you picked up the book for the first time.

GC

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[IATIA]

Reading the Bible without the Holy Spirit's guidance will leave you with as much understanding as you had before you picked up the book for the first time.

Reading the Bible without a brainwashed mind will leave you with as much understanding as you had before you picked up the book for the first time.

Fixed that for you.  No thanks necessary.  You are welcome.


From what I understand, your god sent it's words to us that we would understand and no qualifications were made other than believe it or go to hell.