Sae thinks the absence of things is the same as the sum of things.
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Nothing is everything.
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April 7, 2011 at 7:02 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2011 at 7:42 am by Violet.)
1+-1= 0. Nothing is the sum of 1 and negative 1.
Can I have a cookie yet, or is it too early?  Because I know you want me to post something, here goes: Nothing is everything. Everything is everything. Nothing is nothing. Everything is not nothing. Everything contains nothing. Nothing contains nothing. Nothing does not contain everything. Everything is a thing. Nothing is a thing. Things exist. All things exist. Everything exists. Nothing exists. Go nuts, someone that disagrees with all or any of this. I anticipate pages upon pages of "Yes it is" "No it's not". 
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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April 7, 2011 at 7:45 am
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2011 at 5:20 am by ib.me.ub.)
Saerules Wrote:A vacuum, A void. It can't be described by anything but that it is 'there' (and the nothing which is outside of space is unrationalizable). There's nothing descriptive in nothing except that it is, and contains no other descriptors.It doesn't smell, it doesn't taste, it cannot be seen, it cannot be heard, it cannot be felt... Under your own definition, you should have written nothing.  For it cannot be described. .?. 
 (April 7, 2011 at 7:02 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: 1+-1= 0. Nothing is the sum of 1 and negative 1. Nothing = 0 Thing = 1 Everything = 1 + 1 + 1... Quote:Nothing is everything. 0 = 1 + 1 + 1...? Quote: Everything is everything. Sure, 1 + 1 + 1... = 1 + 1 + 1... Quote:Nothing is nothing Sure, 0 = 0 Quote:Everything is not nothing. So, 0 =/= 1 + 1 + 1... BUT 1 + 1 + 1... = 0? Law of non contradiction: VIOLATED! Quote:Everything contains nothing. Explain. Quote:Nothing contains nothing. Nothing doesn't "contain" anything, nothing is the absence of anything that could possibly be contained by anything else. Quote:Nothing does not contain everything. Nothing does not "contain" anything... Quote:Everything is a thing. Everything is the sum of all things, not a thing by it's self. Quote:Nothing is a thing. No it isn't. Nothing = No things = The absence of things. Quote:Things exist. All things exist. Everything exists. Nothing exists. With you until the "nothing exists". Quote:Go nuts, someone that disagrees with all or any of this. I anticipate pages upon pages of "Yes it is" "No it's not". I've given you more than brute disagreement, you have some serious problems with your concepts.
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RE: Nothing is everything.
April 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm by Violet.)
Ib.me.ub Wrote:Under your own definition, you should have written nothing. I don't disagree... any attempts made to describe a thing that has only existence and naught else are at best an attempt to rationalize the concept by the next best thing (ie: infinity and a very large number). Void Wrote:Nothing = 0 No, everything is one thing. The universe is one. Adding zero to this does not change it. And nothing is also a thing, so calling it zero is kinda funny really. Void Wrote:0 = 1 + 1 + 1...? I agree... 0= 1 + 1 + 1 +-1 +-1 +-1 ^_^ Void Wrote:So, 0 =/= 1 + 1 + 1... BUT 1 + 1 + 1... = 0? Do you honestly dispute that nothing is everything aside from everything?  Because that would be really funny  Void Wrote:Explain. (Everything contains nothing) If nothing is a thing, then everything must include it, lest it be a sum of everything save nothing. And that wouldn't be everything. Void Wrote:Nothing doesn't "contain" anything, nothing is the absence of anything that could possibly be contained by anything else. So tell me then, what does nothing contain? (Hint, the answer is 'nothing'). Void Wrote:Nothing does not "contain" anything... Except nothing, of course. Void Wrote:Everything is the sum of all things, not a thing by it's self. So the sum of 6 apples is not a bushel? Void Wrote:No it isn't. Nothing = No things = The absence of things. And that is a thing. Quote:With you until the "nothing exists". And yet, it does. Quote:I've given you more than brute disagreement, you have some serious problems with your concepts. That you conclude differently doesn't mean I am either incorrect or have problems with my definitions
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
Im still trying to figure out what "nothing" is outside of abstract math
Everytime I think of "nothing", all I can get is blackness. But blackness is something. Outside of algebraic terminology, how can the human mind actually grasp "nothing" without comparing it to something? The human mind loves to compare things. (April 7, 2011 at 4:53 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Im still trying to figure out what "nothing" is outside of abstract math I don't think that it can. The reality of nothing is foreign and difficult to understand (I mean, what's to understand?)... the closest I can come to explain it myself is a void beyond the veil of spacetime. Which makes it all the harder to understand, since there isn't even a location to describe it past "outside". :S Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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April 7, 2011 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm by theVOID.)
(April 7, 2011 at 4:53 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Im still trying to figure out what "nothing" is outside of abstract math It doesn't exist, might not even be possible, certainly isn't conceivable. Sae is letting intuitions get in the way. (April 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: No, everything is one thing. The universe is one. Adding zero to this does not change it. And nothing is also a thing, so calling it zero is kinda funny really. Wtf? Everything is the sum of all things, the universe is the sum of all things within a region of spacetime. Nothing is NOT a thing, nothing is the ABSENCE of things. Literally, No Things = Zero things = 0 Void Wrote:I agree... 0= 1 + 1 + 1 +-1 +-1 +-1 ^_^ You're on crack, that's the only way I can rationalize how retarded you are some times. This is going to go around in circles until you agree that nothing is NOT a thing. Quote:Do you honestly dispute that nothing is everything aside from everything? Everything - Everything = 0. Sure. Now can you get it into your head that "no things" = "nothing"
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April 8, 2011 at 1:13 am
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2011 at 1:14 am by reverendjeremiah.)
Im not backing Sae up 100%. Nothing definitely = no thing.
I tried to expand my view of nothing and actually got "transparent" instead. My imagination just imagined something that is see through. Nothing looked like what I was looking at during the time. Am I the only one who has a hard time trying to explain "nothingness"? The funny thing is that I expect nothingness to be perfect peace after death. Or should I say "non-existence". Thumbs up if you have the same conundrum as I. |
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