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Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
I was hoping Bran wouldn't actually influence the past like that to avoid paradoxes and such.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
But that's it, I don't think he did influence the past so much as he was just following what was fated for him to do. Wylis was Hodor long before Bran was ever born. The cause of Wylis becoming Hodor was always Bran, it just hadn't happened to Bran yet. I also think this is kind of a super rare thing, so I wouldn't worry about it becoming tiresome, especially now that Bran will be scared shitless of trying to interact in the past for now.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 3:07 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Happy for you.  But I didn't notice it go by.  Whose was it?

The guy who played Jofrey, when they were backstage and he was showing them the warts on his penis.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 11:16 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But that's it, I don't think he did influence the past so much as he was just following what was fated for him to do.  Wylis was Hodor long before Bran was ever born.  The cause of Wylis becoming Hodor was always Bran, it just hadn't happened to Bran yet.  I also think this is kind of a super rare thing, so I wouldn't worry about it becoming tiresome, especially now that Bran will be scared shitless of trying to interact in the past for now.

Or tempted to try it again to make other changes?

I agree what what's done is done, so anything he does will already have the consequences played out, but he may not realize that.  Bran may turn out to be the "cause" for some other interesting things as well.

Hey also, do you guys think that guy the children of the forest turned into a white walker in the past vision WAS a Stark Ancestor?  #FanTheoryConfirmed?
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 11:16 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But that's it, I don't think he did influence the past so much as he was just following what was fated for him to do.  Wylis was Hodor long before Bran was ever born.  The cause of Wylis becoming Hodor was always Bran, it just hadn't happened to Bran yet.  I also think this is kind of a super rare thing, so I wouldn't worry about it becoming tiresome, especially now that Bran will be scared shitless of trying to interact in the past for now.

Or tempted to try it again to make other changes?

I agree what what's done is done, so anything he does will already have the consequences played out, but he may not realize that.  Bran may turn out to be the "cause" for some other interesting things as well.

Hey also, do you guys think that guy the children of the forest turned into a white walker in the past vision WAS a Stark Ancestor?  #FanTheoryConfirmed?

If he does try it again, I'm thinking yeah, he's just following fate.  What's done is done, the ink is dry and all that.  The illusion of free will and overall determinism of the universe.  

As for the Stark thing, there's no way to tell that from the episode unfortunately.  In the books the Night King is supposedly the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, which was obviously only formed after the Wall went up, which was after the White Walkers were around for a while.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 11:16 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But that's it, I don't think he did influence the past so much as he was just following what was fated for him to do.  Wylis was Hodor long before Bran was ever born.  The cause of Wylis becoming Hodor was always Bran, it just hadn't happened to Bran yet.  I also think this is kind of a super rare thing, so I wouldn't worry about it becoming tiresome, especially now that Bran will be scared shitless of trying to interact in the past for now.

Ugh, just like in Harry Potter. The whole idea hurts my head.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 6:48 pm)Aegon Wrote: Ugh, just like in Harry Potter. The whole idea hurts my head.

I agree. I have never cared for writers attempting to make sense of paradoxes with their plot twists.

Even with Doctor Who, there's at least a rule set in place to avoid the paradox situation.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 11:21 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(May 24, 2016 at 3:07 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Happy for you.  But I didn't notice it go by.  Whose was it?

The guy who played Jofrey, when they were backstage and he was showing them the warts on his penis.

Must have missed it while I was cringing.  Warty weiner.  Shudder.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 11:10 am)Aegon Wrote: I was hoping Bran wouldn't actually influence the past like that to avoid paradoxes and such.

It may be that he must, because he already did.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
(May 24, 2016 at 5:42 am)pocaracas Wrote: Did we ever see this a year ago?



Totally bad ass.
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