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Hell and God cant Co-exist.
RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
The Chad.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

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-- Superintendent Chalmers

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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 1:49 pm)madog Wrote: Sorry wrong post Wink

NO. I was correcting my post as you were posting.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 1:52 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(June 3, 2016 at 1:49 pm)madog Wrote: Sorry wrong post Wink

NO. I was correcting my post as you were posting.

Phew ... yes I saw the quote after I posted and my question became invalid Smile
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
Wow!

A day without checking this thread, and I return to page after page of unsupported assertions from Dritch and Wooters.

If only they could support any of them with something besides: ancient texts, personal experience, anecdotes, bad philosophical arguments, etc.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(June 3, 2016 at 10:21 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I hear this assertion so often that I listed some of the evidence in my signature line. How do you test evidence? By comparing it with other evidence. Notice that I list, not one, but three pieces of evidence that independently verify the validity of the others. So don't continue to LIE and tell us there is no evidence.

There is NO evidence.  Your sig is strictly opinion biased toward a belief in a god.  It does not have any substance.  I cannot prove god does not exist, but my attempt at disproving god has significantly more substance than that.

ROFLOL

So do you actually dispute any them or do you just disagree with their logical conclusions? Please enlighten me. Which of the facts about reality that have been observed since the dawn of time do you reject?
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 2:11 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: ...bad philosophical arguments, etc....
If they are so bad then why haven't you attempted to demonstrate their flaws. Some atheists love to say that all the proofs of god have been dismissed. Maybe. There are actually some fairly good objection that I take seriously. But I would bet you don't even know what those objections are.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 2:33 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:   Please enlighten me. Which of the facts about reality that have been observed since the dawn of time do you reject?

Lost me here .... you want to ascertain "supernatural" fantasy with reality? you seem to want to explain supernatural with natural?
Religion is the top shelf of the supernatural supermarket ... Madog
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 2:33 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(June 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm)IATIA Wrote: There is NO evidence.  Your sig is strictly opinion biased toward a belief in a god.  It does not have any substance.  I cannot prove god does not exist, but my attempt at disproving god has significantly more substance than that.

ROFLOL

So do you actually dispute any them or do you just disagree with their logical conclusions? Please enlighten me. Which of the facts about reality that have been observed since the dawn of time do you reject?

The problem is the conclusion. You've given absolutely no justification for why that is the conclusion you draw from the observations you list.

That justification is actually hugely important. It's literally the difference between an actual argument and a baseless assertion.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
(June 3, 2016 at 2:41 pm)madog Wrote:
(June 3, 2016 at 2:33 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:   Please enlighten me. Which of the facts about reality that have been observed since the dawn of time do you reject?
Lost me here .... you want to ascertain "supernatural" fantasy with reality? you seem to want to explain supernatural with natural?

"Some things change and only actual things can cause change" Agree or disagree? Same for the other two. That's all I'm asking.
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