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Take some fucking responsibility!
#71
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 10:12 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Why don't we castrate rapists? Seems we just throw them in jail for a short amount of time, put them on a register when they get out and that's it. No actual punishment.

I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Exactly.

Make sure they are definitely guilty before carrying out the punishment. But I later settled for life sentences without parole for rapists instead of castration.
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#72
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 11:51 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: The thing is how do you "rehabilitate" someone as sociopathic as a rapist? I ask this question with an open mind. Putting them away for the good of society, to keep them from harming anyone again, seems the only thing we can do until we gain the technology to reprogram a personality.

And even at that point, is that a power we wish to grant to government?

I've yet to see a government which does not abuse what powers it has alloted to it.

Lock them away. I'm not averse to a life sentence for rape; it satisfies the "eye-for-an-eye" requirement that BM brought up, insofar as the perpetrator, like his victim, must live with the fallout of his decisions for the remainder of his life

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#73
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Exactly.

Make sure they are definitely guilty before carrying out the punishment. But I later settled for life sentences without parole for rapists instead of castration.

So I read. I hope you didn't take my post as criticism.

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#74
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 2:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 11:51 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: The thing is how do you "rehabilitate" someone as sociopathic as a rapist? I ask this question with an open mind. Putting them away for the good of society, to keep them from harming anyone again, seems the only thing we can do until we gain the technology to reprogram a personality.

And even at that point, is that a power we wish to grant to government?

Precisely why I'm against the death penalty (or any other irrevocable punishment for that matter).
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#75
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 2:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Exactly.

Make sure they are definitely guilty before carrying out the punishment. But I later settled for life sentences without parole for rapists instead of castration.

So I read. I hope you didn't take my post as criticism.

Oh no, I didn't. Don't worry.  Smile
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#76
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 10:12 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Why don't we castrate rapists? Seems we just throw them in jail for a short amount of time, put them on a register when they get out and that's it. No actual punishment.

I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Even if we could be 100% certain of guilty 100% of the time, I would still be against castration and the death penalty. Those are both counted as cruel and unusual in my book.
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#77
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Losty Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Even if we could be 100% certain of guilty 100% of the time, I would still be against castration and the death penalty. Those are both counted as cruel and unusual in my book.

What about life sentences with no chance of parole?
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#78
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Losty Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Even if we could be 100% certain of guilty 100% of the time, I would still be against castration and the death penalty. Those are both counted as cruel and unusual in my book.

Chemical castration:

"Chemical castration is castration via drugs, whether to reduce libido and sexual activity, to treat cancer, or otherwise. Unlike surgical castration, where the gonads are removed through an incision in the body, chemical castration does not remove organs, nor is it a form of sterilization."

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#79
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Losty Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Even if we could be 100% certain of guilty 100% of the time, I would still be against castration and the death penalty. Those are both counted as cruel and unusual in my book.

Yep. Not to mention unnecessary. There are definitely other less inhumane ways to protect victims.
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#80
RE: Take some fucking responsibility!
(June 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Losty Wrote:
(June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm of the mind that until the investigative apparatus is perfected, punishments should not be permanent. It's the same reason I'm against the death penalty.

Even if we could be 100% certain of guilty 100% of the time, I would still be against castration and the death penalty. Those are both counted as cruel and unusual in my book.

Fair enough. If we could count on 100% certainty, there are a couple of crimes I might consider for it, but even so I have qualms about official killings.

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