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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 23, 2011 at 6:44 am
(April 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote:
Fuck off dumbass.
I'll take that as a no..... so you are just piss and wind??
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 2:00 am
It's okay ib.me.ub people don't believe or care about thing's untill it's in their face. The only time people will care about the enviroment is when is too late to go back. That is true human arrogance.
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 2:32 am
(April 20, 2011 at 4:27 pm)JohnDG Wrote: Finaly people have some idea on how to treat our planet. Hopefully the Earth does get some rights so we can stop destroying it.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/04/18/...her-earth/
Are you fucking kidding me? These are the dumbest laws I've ever seen. Typical of the "World Hero of Mother Earth" Mr Morales.
It just shows that "Rights" and especially "Human Rights" are buzzwords devoid of any real meaning, half these loony fuckers don't even have a coherent concept of what a "Right" is, case and point the Eurodouches trying to give people a "right" to internet access.
Terrain has a right? Sorry dude, put down the shovel, you can't hurt the dirt!
You do realize that Bolivia's push for this stems straight from their religious traditions, which they are now trying to force down everyone else's throats? The earth is their fucking deity.
But worst of all, their "rights" contain "the right to not have cellular structure modified or genetically altered" - Yeah that's right, no research into genetics, vaccines, GM food no testing drugs on animals.
The UN are a bunch of Elitist pricks who think they get to order you around because the elites know best, ya know, who fucking elected them? NOBODY!
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 2:50 am
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See George Carlin on "save the planet".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
Quote:The Greens' are NOT an environmentalist party they are a neo-nazi leftist party...I thought you new that??
What? A "neo-Nazi leftist party" is an oxymoron. Fascism is extreme right wing by definition. The Greens are a centre-centre left party for the bleeding heart " small l"* liberal bourgeoisie. There is no effective political left in Australia, the UK or the US. (not sure about NZ,but I don't think so)
*In Australia, the Liberal party is conservative.Sarah Palin would fit right in in one of our"deep north' bible belt electorates.
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 3:10 am
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George Carlin is an idiot. This crap is already posted on the first page, maybe you need better glasses.
Quote:Terrain has a right? Sorry dude, put down the shovel, you can't hurt the dirt!
Fuck me, we are switched on today. Rivers, lakes, forests etc.
Quote:You do realize that Bolivia's push for this stems straight from their religious traditions, which they are now trying to force down everyone else's throats? The earth is their fucking deity.
And your point?
Of course your going to jump up and down, being a capitalist.
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 3:17 am
(April 24, 2011 at 2:50 am)padraic Wrote: What? A "neo-Nazi leftist party" is an oxymoron. Fascism is extreme right wing by definition. The Greens are a centre-centre left party for the bleeding heart " small l"* liberal bourgeoisie. There is no effective political left in Australia, the UK or the US. (not sure about NZ,but I don't think so)
*In Australia, the Liberal party is conservative.Sarah Palin would fit right in in one of our"deep north' bible belt electorates.
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The Greens are center-left authoritarians here, they absolutely wreak of the "fuck you slave, we know best" mentality, but then all the parties here do in a sense. We have no real left amongst the main parties, Labor is center-right, although they are going way to the left and ganging up with the unions to get votes because at this moment their party is about as unpopular as it ever has been, around 7% of the population approve of their leader.
The Nazi's weren't "fascists" either, they were massive into the public sector and government control of the economy, they are left of center-left and totalitarian, more akin to the USSR than any "Fascist" conception.
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 3:28 am
(April 24, 2011 at 2:50 am)padraic Wrote: See George Carlin on "save the planet".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
So love George Carlin
(April 24, 2011 at 2:50 am)padraic Wrote: Quote:The Greens' are NOT an environmentalist party they are a neo-nazi leftist party...I thought you new that??
What? A "neo-Nazi leftist party" is an oxymoron. Fascism is extreme right wing by definition. The Greens are a centre-centre left party for the bleeding heart " small l"* liberal bourgeoisie. There is no effective political left in Australia, the UK or the US. (not sure about NZ, but I don't think so)
*In Australia, the Liberal party is conservative. Sarah Palin would fit right in in one of our"deep north' bible belt electorates.
PS (it's 'knew')
Sorry padraic...these comments did show on my screen. The 'neo-Nazi Party' is just an emotional response to the fact that the original Greens were more orientated towards protesting about environmental issues but is now getting itself very vocal about controlling just what people can and can't do that has very little to do with the environment. Yes they are bleeding hearts.
I am very ignorant of politics.
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 3:30 am
(April 24, 2011 at 3:10 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: George Carlin is an idiot. This crap is already posted on the first page, maybe you need better glasses.
Carlin is an idiot? That's something you don't hear every day
Quote:Fuck me, we are switched on today. Rivers, lakes, forests etc.
Next time you raise a point about a subset of anything at all I'm going to complain that you didn't reference the entire category, okay?
Quote:Links. Evidence?
And your point?
Evidence:
"Bolivia’s Law of Mother Earth is heavily influenced by the spiritual indigenous Andean world outlook that revolves around the earth deity Pachamama, roughly translated to Mother Earth."
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e.../Pachamama
My point:
Giving an inanimate object "Rights" is nonsense, it is pushed largely for religious reasons by a group who see this inanimate object as a not just a being, but a deity.
Giving rights to living creatures is one thing, and I can support that to an extent and that would include securing their rights by preventing actions which could thwart those rights, such as the BP oil spill, we have a good case for making illegal pollution on that scale because it thwarts their rights, but saying that a collection of elements has "rights" is bizarre to say the least.
We might as well declare that space has rights and you can't thwart the freedom of space by putting something in it.
Also, suppose a Lion kills an Antelope, are we to arrest the Lion because it thwarted the rights of the Antelope?
Cattle emit massive levels of Methane, we know first hand here in New Zealand that Cattle producted Methane is responsible for as much as half of our greenhouse gas emissions, can we declare that a collection of Cows are thwarting the rights of other creatures and "mother earth" because of this?
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RE: Human rights for mother nature?
April 24, 2011 at 3:37 am
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theVOID Wrote:ib.me.ub Wrote:Fuck me, we are switched on today. Rivers, lakes, forests etc.
Next time you raise a point about a subset of anything at all I'm going to complain that you didn't reference the entire category, okay?
What are you on about? Complain away.
theVOID Wrote:My point:
Giving an inanimate object "Rights" is nonsense, it is pushed largely for religious reasons by a group who see this inanimate object as a not just a being, but a deity.
Giving rights to living creatures is one thing, and I can support that to an extent and that would include securing their rights by preventing actions which could thwart those rights, such as the BP oil spill, we have a good case for making illegal pollution on that scale because it thwarts their rights, but saying that a collection of elements has "rights" is bizarre to say the least.
We might as well declare that space has rights and you can't thwart the freedom of space by putting something in it.
Also, suppose a Lion kills an Antelope, are we to arrest the Lion because it thwarted the rights of the Antelope?
Cattle emit massive levels of Methane, we know first hand here in New Zealand that Cattle producted Methane is responsible for as much as half of our greenhouse gas emissions, can we declare that a collection of Cows are thwarting the rights of other creatures and "mother earth" because of this?
Fuck me, without these so called elements, life cannot survive.
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