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Great... now movie posters are sexist?
#51
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
(June 16, 2016 at 3:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(June 16, 2016 at 2:19 pm)paulpablo Wrote: The whole film is pretty much very connected with genocidal plots and with parallels to the Nazis.

My interpretation of Magneto is that he's basically become the person who he hates the most.  His family were taken away by Nazis who believed he and his family were inferior for being Jewish.  Now he has power and he becomes someone who repeatedly shows willingness to kill normal humans who he believes to be weaker. And he joins Apocalypse who is very much the same.
That's a wonderful plot synopsis, but it's still a naked female in an inviting pose being one armed by Johnny Gorilla, because she's a weakling...and trust me someone's beating their meat to it right about nyow..and not for the plot. It hit's all the buttons of the demographic to which the movie is marketed, all the wrong ones.....,.lol.

I agree it can be easily interpreted as sexual, and violent. But I don't see how that makes it sexist.

If the scene wasn't from the film itself you could say the poster is portraying an image and message independent from the film which is sexist.

The poster is based upon advertising a story, not a political statement.

That's how I see it. I can't read the minds of the people who made the poster so it is possible they had malicious intent towards women when making this design.

But to me it's just one of the main hero characters who's the woman, in battle with the main bad guy who's a man. She looks like she's about to lose which adds tension and suspense and the title is saying only the strong survive so it makes you wonder who actually will survive.


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#52
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
I find my thoughts about this a bit hard to put into words. But I feel this is a major overreaction.
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#53
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
She looks like she's about to do something, that's for sure, lol.
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#54
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
(June 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Rhythm Wrote: She looks like she's about to do something, that's for sure, lol.

Haha im fairly perverse but I didn't even see the poster like that. If you think about it in sexual terms though yes it looks violent and sexual.

It's like a very toned down version of the video nasty front covers from the 80s.
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#55
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
Maybe it requires you having been a female in a relationship where the power dynamic was fucked and someone choked or otherwise abused you or, hey, I don't know, tried to throw you off something (weren't they on a building in that scene? I haven't seen the movie yet - in my case, it was a flight of stairs) before you realize why it can be construed as sexist. Because you know, there was literally no way they couldn't take particular photos to advertise the movie, or choose a different movie still to show the struggle, or something. Nope, they specifically chose Jlaw getting choked by a meathead.

You don't understand why it's sexist? It's great that you're admitting it. The problem is you probably didn't bother to listen to why, except to gather hyperbolic or hysterical statements in order to continue building a strawman of feminism instead of, I don't know, listening to those of us who have been through domestic or child abuse.

Don't get me wrong - I love a little breath play in my scenes, but that's always been consensual. I wish I could say that grabbing a woman by a vulnerable part of her body has always been consensual in my life, or my sister's or mother's.
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#56
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
(June 16, 2016 at 4:00 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Haha im fairly perverse but I didn't even see the poster like that.
Really...take a look again and tell me that's how you think a girl being choked by Papa Smurf there would look? Just as pretty and docile as can be....
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#57
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
(June 16, 2016 at 11:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: What about this video I got this morning.  Something tells me that a) it would not pass the sexism test and b) who the fuck cares?

https://youtu.be/dsYfn8yg41w

After watching that, something has risen and it wasn't the sun! Big Grin
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#58
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
(June 15, 2016 at 4:43 pm)IanHulett Wrote: [Image: x-men-billboard-hed-2016.jpg]

My thoughts on this:

His arm looks too short in proportion to the size of his head.

There's probably never a good reason to put a picture of a woman getting choked on a billboard. I know some people aren't going to be offended by it, but the people who are don't have to go to too much trouble to justify their reaction.
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#59
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
Whether it's a guy choking a girl,  a girl choking s guy, a guy choking another guy, a girl choking another girl, a white person choking a black person, a black person choking a white person, a person choking a person or a Smurf person choking another Smurf person, it's not exactly PG.
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#60
RE: Great... now movie posters are sexist?
Because billboards are outside, and children go outside sometimes, I would argue that it's probably never a good idea to put anyone being choked on a billboard.
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