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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm
(June 29, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 29, 2016 at 1:07 pm)Ayen Wrote: Why'd he make an unnecessary law that wasn't needed back in Genesis and was then later scraped in the New Testament?
Was he mad at pigs, or something?
Who knows for sure, but maybe pigs were carrying a sickness or disease that would have changed the course of History if they were eaten by the jews in that time period. (no refrigeration, plus medium rare is how most everyone ate everything) This would also account for the law that says Jew must eat everything well done. (no blood in the meat)
Wouldn't it have been easier to put animals on the earth without disease? I thought the fiction book said it was created just for us?
Funny really those little pesky germs managed to fuck Gods eternal plan as much as they still manage to fuck us now ...
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 8, 2016 at 10:16 pm
(July 8, 2016 at 3:26 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: (June 29, 2016 at 6:29 pm)Ignorant Wrote: There is an unstated premise that needs explicit stating if there is to be a clear distinction of the difficulty.
Here's what I think it is: All of God's commands in the bible are valid and binding for every person and in every age.
If that premise is true, then "contradictions" like the OP show that the commands of God as recorded in the Bible are unreliable.
If that is the unstated premise, where does it come from? If not, what is the premise?
Why would the perfect being, the omnipotent god, not make laws that were binding on everybody for all time? Why would he create laws that were later superseded and improved upon, thus calling into severe question his perfection (as he had created something imperfect)?
I don't know.
Does my ignorance mean that the premise is the only true hermeneutical principle with which to understand what is happening in the Bible? Can those who critique the moral coherence of the Bible according to this premise be mistaken?
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 9, 2016 at 5:48 am
(July 8, 2016 at 10:16 pm)Ignorant Wrote: (July 8, 2016 at 3:26 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Why would the perfect being, the omnipotent god, not make laws that were binding on everybody for all time? Why would he create laws that were later superseded and improved upon, thus calling into severe question his perfection (as he had created something imperfect)?
I don't know.
Does my ignorance mean that the premise is the only true hermeneutical principle with which to understand what is happening in the Bible? Can those who critique the moral coherence of the Bible according to this premise be mistaken?
According to my Primate Hermeneutics the Christian Bible is 100% man-made. It certainly is a source of morality. The entire spectrum of human morality is outlined within it. Misogyny, slavery, genocide, jealousy, ethnic privilege, sharing, helping the sick, charity. There is not one single concept that cannot easily be attributed to a first century male primate.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 9, 2016 at 8:32 am
(July 8, 2016 at 10:16 pm)Ignorant Wrote: (July 8, 2016 at 3:26 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Why would the perfect being, the omnipotent god, not make laws that were binding on everybody for all time? Why would he create laws that were later superseded and improved upon, thus calling into severe question his perfection (as he had created something imperfect)?
I don't know.
Does my ignorance mean that the premise is the only true hermeneutical principle with which to understand what is happening in the Bible? Can those who critique the moral coherence of the Bible according to this premise be mistaken?
Can you phrase your argument in anything other than meaningless gibberish pleqse?
If I read your meaning properly, no you can't have it both ways, in that you can't both mqintain that the bible is the infallible word of god and then sweep all the fallibilities under the carpet.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 9, 2016 at 11:37 am
(June 30, 2016 at 8:19 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (June 29, 2016 at 8:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Pigs are exceptionally clean.
You have obviously never raised hogs.
And you obviously know fuck all about pigs. The reason why farm pigs are so dirty is because they are kept in a confined space.
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July 9, 2016 at 11:49 am
(June 30, 2016 at 9:23 am)alpha male Wrote: The first was a general rule for all people. The second was given specifically to Israel. The stated purpose of the Mosaic law was to make Israel a peculiar people separate from the other nations. Note also that the Mosaic law was offered to Israel as a voluntary covenant with reward for obedience, and they accepted it.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
The ot was a book written by hebrews specifically for hebrews. Why would they write rules for those outside their own tribe, when the whole goal of those rules was to specify who qualified as a hebrew? Just as rules developed in the qu'ran are for muslims only, and rules developed by the Zulu were for Zulus only and so on with any tribal or religious group you can care to name. Groups don't make rules for outsiders because they don't care if the outsiders obey the rules or not.
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 9, 2016 at 12:09 pm
(July 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm)madog Wrote: (June 29, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Drich Wrote: Who knows for sure, but maybe pigs were carrying a sickness or disease that would have changed the course of History if they were eaten by the jews in that time period. (no refrigeration, plus medium rare is how most everyone ate everything) This would also account for the law that says Jew must eat everything well done. (no blood in the meat)
Wouldn't it have been easier to put animals on the earth without disease? I thought the fiction book said it was created just for us?
Funny really those little pesky germs managed to fuck Gods eternal plan as much as they still manage to fuck us now ...
Why would He do that if they are being used to 'filter' followers and non followers?
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm
This is where your god fucks up. Why put people on the earth at all if he was just going to pick out the ones he liked and favor those over those "less desirable" people?
That's a pretty dickish move to make from a supposed god that "loves everyone".
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 10, 2016 at 6:01 am
(July 9, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Drich Wrote: (July 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm)madog Wrote: Wouldn't it have been easier to put animals on the earth without disease? I thought the fiction book said it was created just for us?
Funny really those little pesky germs managed to fuck Gods eternal plan as much as they still manage to fuck us now ...
Why would He do that if they are being used to 'filter' followers and non followers?
Eh you think your God added germs to " 'filter' followers and non followers?" ... what a sicko
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RE: Let's see how many apologetics take the bait
July 10, 2016 at 8:37 am
No I think as with job, God simply removed the 'hedge of protection' He originally had around us, and we became targets if we did not follow God's law. Which as a result filtered believers from non believers.
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