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Coming out as Atheist
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 (July 21, 2016 at 12:25 am)ScienceAf Wrote:(July 21, 2016 at 12:20 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: K, go ahead and tell them all about it and tell us what happened. Ok  Good luck. 
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
You're around my son's age.
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 (July 20, 2016 at 11:21 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: I am 12, have spent half a year looking through my thoughts and pondering why I can't believe in god. I don't know why, but I may be just to speculative. My parents know I don't want to be Muslim because I have reasons but they still try to convince me. What should I do to let them accept me for who I am. I'm gathering that they are not exactly fanatics about religion, either? I imagine to their minds that, at age 12, they are going to treat you as if you are going through a phase or entering some sort of adolescent rebellion. Try not to fixate on religion or your rejection of it. You have far more important things to experience at your age than silly old fairy tales. Just be yourself and if you need to speak about religion do it here. (July 21, 2016 at 1:31 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:(July 21, 2016 at 1:25 am)Alex K Wrote: Welcome to the Forum! Sorry the redlight didn't stay long enough 
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Welcome!
You know your situation better than anyone here. I'm glad you're in America where it's not terribly dangerous to be an apostate, but please be careful. A lot of young people have to choose to just bide their time until they go to college or move out of the house. If you think your parents would punish you in some way that is unbearable, then it might be better to just play the part. Remember, they cannot make you believe anything. They can make you go to Mosque, they can make you pray, they can make you attend extra religious teaching. But they cannot force you to believe. No one can. If you have done a lot of thinking and research and learning and the evidence points to Allah not existing, then that is what you are convinced of. Keep learning, keep reading and exploring, and get good grades so you can go to college and become your own person. A wonderful thing about being a freethinker is that there is no skin off your back by playing the game while it is prudent to do so. I hope you stick around! We don't get a lot of ex-Muslims on the boards, and we'd love to hear your opinions on things!
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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Everybody, I have read through your replies and am astonished by the feedback. This community is so very lovely.
  And I am happy to say my mum and step dad took it very well. Atleast better than expected. My step dad was like it's just a phase leave him be and let him think it through. But my mum said that she'll cancel my music lessons (possibly) and she thinks I'll "come to my senses" but for now she seems very disappointed and says that she does not like me anymore but I'm sure because it's just alot of pressure on her from this coming out of nowhere (I did subtlety hint). I also might have schooners come over and try to convince me to be Muslim because my mum thinks I'm going crazy.  RE: Coming out as Atheist
July 21, 2016 at 3:11 am
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2016 at 3:13 am by robvalue.)
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It's good to question things. The truth doesn't change, and it doesn't need protecting. Bear in mind that joining a religion isn't just about whether it's supernatural claims are "true". It's also about whether you actually want to be a part of the religion. For example, I wouldn't join any religion even if they were true, because I find worship to be a creepy concept, and any God who demands it while holding my future hostage can get lost. I don't need anyone telling me how to live my life, not even God, and especially not people presuming to speak for God. Also, the abrahamic religions in particular are poisonous and immoral, so I'd especially not become part of them. Of course it's your decision. I'm just giving my perspective, and that people often overlook this vital part. For example, it wouldn't be enough to prove Hitler was real (in his lifetime) to convince you to become a Nazi, would it? Keep questioning You've come to the right place. If people try and shut down your questions or give you shitty, deflecting answers, then there's something suspicious going on. Feel free to bring us anything in particular that bothers you.
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Threatening to cancel your music lessons and saying that she doesn't like you any more is very childish, but you on the other hand seem very mature about it - parents are only human, give her time. Hopefully she'll realize that you haven't changed.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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