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July 27, 2016 at 2:40 pm
The entire field of this election appears to be a bunch of people blaming others for decisions that -they- are about to make. Somehow, I doubt that this will end well for america.
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July 27, 2016 at 3:16 pm
(July 27, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Somehow, I doubt that this will end well for america.
With Hilllary it probably won't get worse. Cold comfort, but that's how it looks. With dead hamster head, the whole world can fasten their seatbelts.
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 3:25 pm
(July 27, 2016 at 1:33 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: (July 27, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: He's not completely wrong about a hidden libertarian portion of the electorate. One of the problems the Libertarians have is that Libertarians have staked out some fairly extreme positions that aren't attractive to most libertarians, so they don't become Libertarians. Gary himself is more of a libertarian than a Libertarian.
There's a real untapped portion of the American public that is basically in favor of classic liberalism (socially inclusive, fiscally responsible) that a Libertarian Party should be representing, but the leadership of the LP seems all tied up with Misesian economics and resisting even the least bit of regulation on firearms.
I think more then likely what you are describing in the future of the Republican party, rather then the Libertarian one. The Libertarians have some very extreme and unpopular things in their platform and it would be a daunting task to replace the Republican party. Social and religious conservatives are almost all old people with disproportionate power because old people turn out to vote and young Republicans do tend more towards soft L libertarian like you described. Fiscally conservative but socially moderate. Libertarians, or rather the libertarian party aren't fiscally conservative. They are fiscally Libertarian, which is very different. I don't think people in large will ever be on board with things like :
Abolishing the Department of Education
Abolishing the EPA
Abolishing all public health
Abolishing the Federal Reserve
Legalizing hard drugs
etc etc etc
How about, abolish the IRS. I could definitely be on board with that.
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July 27, 2016 at 3:29 pm
(July 27, 2016 at 3:25 pm)A Theist Wrote: How about, abolish the IRS. I could definitely be on board with that.
Nobody likes paying taxes, but how do you think a taxless country would function? You can't privatize everything and hope for the best. The results would be corporatist anarchy.
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July 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm
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More like corporate feudalism, I can't imagine why they wouldn't hire some guns, what with there being no funding to pay anyone to stop them. Sometimes, I think that people forget that the fed keeps your state from abusing the shit out of you, like they used to. Maybe if a person imagined living in an area that was wholly opposite of their own ideology, or regarded them as a non-person...it would hit home?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 4:35 pm
(July 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: More like corporate feudalism, I can't imagine why they wouldn't hire some guns, what with there being no funding to pay anyone to stop them. Sometimes, I think that people forget that the fed keeps your state from abusing the shit out of you, like they used to. Maybe if a person imagined living in an area that was wholly opposite of their own ideology, or regarded them as a non-person...it would hit home?
Indeed - one needn't even have a particularly vivid imagination, one only needs look at the anti-labor violence of the early 20th century to visualize what it might look like.
Does anyone - outside the oligarchy - really want to see this? I think not.
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July 27, 2016 at 4:43 pm
(July 27, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (July 27, 2016 at 8:15 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Time Warner Cable gives millions to the Clintons so it's in CNNs interest not to make the Clintons look bad.
I'm not sure I follow your logic here. Giving money to a candidate make the candidate beholden to you, in American politics, not the other way 'round. Time Warner has invested lots of money in Hilary Clinton. Hilary is a great product big business can buy right? If she loses, all of their money will got to waste. They give money to a candidate in the hopes of getting legislation that favours them, do they not? I'm sure they would love Hilary to fight for certain policies which will make them richer.
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 5:05 pm
Election Justice USA finds that Bernie Sanders could have lost up to 184 delegates to Election Fraud
Not sure how trustworthy this organization is but it's newsworthy so I'm posting it here. According to their website (which is down at the moment but you can view archived content) "Election Justice USA" is "a national coalition of seasoned election integrity experts, attorneys, statisticians, journalists and activists".
Full report can be read here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6J1ecI...ef=2&pli=1
They apparently looked at:
1) Targeted voter suppression
2) Registration tampering
3) Illegal voter purges
4) Exit polling discrepancies
5) Evidence for voting machine tampering
6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types
for each state primary / caucus and came up with an estimate.
The estimate would have brought the race much closer, possibly even giving Sanders more pledged delegates.
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July 27, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Fortunately (or unfortu8nately depending on which way you look at it), Election Justice USA aren't the only people looking into election fraud in the Democratic presidential primary. The Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity also have lawsuits
Quoting the description of the below video:
Quote:Election fraud experts Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis say they have proof that Hillary Clinton's campaign has benefited from election fraud. They believe their current lawsuit will end Hillary's run and prove that Bernie Sanders is indeed the Democratic nominee. Watch this unbelievable clip as broken down by Lee Camp on Redacted Tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibK4de85IKw
So they are pretty serious people. Add to that the Stanford study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4D2wybua6k
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RE: WikiLeaks publishes searchable database of almost 20,000 emails from DNC.
July 27, 2016 at 5:28 pm
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We've already gotten used to people calling Hillary a criminal. This is nothing new. It is like the accusations that Obama was foriegn born and a muslim. Just the right wing assholes shooting wildly from the hip hoping to confuse the ignorant.
So what do we have? A political party has acted politically. You can no more assign that to Hillary than you can to Bernie, even though with Hillary you have possible motive. Pure speculation. Hillary will be our next president and, like our current one, do the best job she can in the face of unrelenting obstructionism on the part of the traitorous opposition.
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