Do you see any benefits to religious faith?

[Cyberman]

No, I used a jpg to make a commentary about your style of posting. You simply dropped some random shit and pretended you were being satirical.

[Arkilogue]

And I completely agree. Blind faith does just that because it's mostly wrapped around a projected sense of self-worth. "I believe these things because that's what a good God fearing person should believe."

Experiential faith is not about self worth, you don't "earn it" and that is also asserted in the bible. Several "reports" of the experience felt like they didn't deserve it. Because it's not about that.

[ApeNotKillApe]

Light is also helpful to illustrate the relationship of God to the universe: Before the creation of space is like unified white light, the creation of space is like the prismation of light, the forces and material inside are like the spread out colors. They would be the "Elohim" expressive plurality of the originally unfed God.

The infinite unified God state of absolute being still exists outside the finite, mostly empty space universe.

And the infinite God uses the dark energon to generate the omni-prism of warp energy, maintaining the power of the Planeteers long enough to complete Goku's spirit bomb and save Eternia from total protonic reversal, right? Am I following?

[ApeNotKillApe]

And I completely agree. Blind faith does just that because it's mostly wrapped around a projected sense of self-worth. "I believe these things because that's what a good God fearing person should believe."

Experiential faith is not about self worth, you don't "earn it" and that is also asserted in the bible.  Several "reports" of the experience felt like they didn't deserve it. Because it's not about that.

So...Leviticus. Where does that fit in to this narrative of yours?

[Arkilogue]

No, I used a jpg to make a commentary about your style of posting. You simply dropped some random shit and pretended you were being satirical.

I concede, your re-framing is more colorful.


We got off to a really bad start Stimbo and I've owned my part in acting out of ignorance. I don't require anything from you but if you insist in continuing to provoke and prod me, consider this your final warning......

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I am ticklish. I will laugh, I just might piss myself....and you might just get some on you. :p

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[Arkilogue]

Light is also helpful to illustrate the relationship of God to the universe: Before the creation of space is like unified white light, the creation of space is like the prismation of light, the forces and material inside are like the spread out colors. They would be the "Elohim" expressive plurality of the originally unified God.

The infinite unified God state of absolute being still exists outside the finite, mostly empty space universe.

And the infinite God uses the dark energon to generate the omni-prism of warp energy, maintaining the power of the Planeteers long enough to complete Goku's spirit bomb and save Eternia from total protonic reversal, right? Am I following?

.....I'm pretty sure that's cultural inappropriation...

Sorry, probably threw you completely off course with my misprint.

No. The Original God quantum fluctuated (vibrated to the point of cavitation) and the resulting order within the newly formed void space is a wave-function of the original infinite "particle". A particle with no boundary forms a finite space within itself. Form out of formlessness.

This finite spatial wave-function/form is derived from both the original particle's relative spatial relationships with it's own substance and the pure logic of Newtonian equal/opposite reaction. The very first set of structures predicted by this method describes a nucleus, larger spherical border condition and a field in equilibrium between them. The vibrating container that is the universe predicts it's own micro-standing wave form/basic building block: The Atom.

I'm also not the first to find/intuit/re-discover this method of navigation nor the shapes I have found.

Fun research activity: Find the self created/formed/birthed God who's symbol is the circle around the dot and the story of his arising.

[Arkilogue]

The universe is not something from nothing....it's a relative nothing, within a sum thing, so that some things can experience movement/change/time/growth.

[ApeNotKillApe]

Well, so long as that's cleared up.

[vorlon13]

religions that pronounce hot hairy homo perverted butt hole gaping deep fisting erotic sex forbidden add that extra touch of spark that makes it all the more fun


and then getting to do the nasty with an actual member of one of those churches, EXQUISITE !!

[bennyboy]

Rob, the problem you are talking about is true for ALL mental experiences and states of mind. . . you have to take what people say, then see if you can find neural or physiological correlates.  But if you test a lot of people, and those who SAY they have feelings of faith tend toward certain types of brain function which those who say they do not have those feelings, then you can reasonably infer that their feelings are real.

And faith is NOT religion.  Faith is a state of suspension of disbelief, combined with a sense that some entity or principle maintains rightness in the universe.  Religions require it, but it is not religion.

Faith = pistis = Divine persuasion not self persuasion.

If faith is taken to mean belief, then there is no need for the word faith. It's spiritually redundant aka dysfunctional.  Much to the delight of The Church.

The meaning has been hijacked and lost like part of a map cut off.  People won't very well explore a territory that is not represented nor entertain a possibility they think does not exist.

If you can degrade the meanings of words, you can degrade the function of thought and limit the potential expression/development of an individual....aka "newspeak".

I didn't say anything about persuasion of any type, self or otherwise. Nor did I say that faith is belief. Can you please stop quoting my posts, and then making up a bunch of bullshit that has no relation to what you quoted? That's rude and annoying.

Or. . . just shut the fuck up and we can all spray salad on our monitors and PRETEND you posted.