Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Where else?
October 7, 2016 at 9:39 am
I really don't need any help, it's okay. You've already admitted your "point" has no impact on me whatsoever, yet you're still willing to dishonestly argue for it against me.
Posts: 3064
Threads: 3
Joined: July 10, 2016
Reputation:
37
Posts: 4238
Threads: 29
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
9
RE: Where else?
October 7, 2016 at 9:53 am
(October 7, 2016 at 9:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay, you seem to be confusing "some atheists say..." with "atheists say..."
Do I need to explain the difference between those two statements to you? Do you really not understand, or are you ruthlessly dishonest, so much so you don't even realise you're doing it anymore?
Oh, I see.
That is very smart Rob.
Let me try to put all the broken pieces together to see if they make any sense.
To say that atheism is such and such because some or most atheists say something personal is wrong.
I got it Roberto but there is a small point that you don't get it and that is the fact that by not
tell those atheists that say something wrong that they are wrong you too fall in the trap.
It is only by denounce and dissociate from those atheists that you would be correct.
But you haven't done so.
You know the old saying.......those who keep silent agree.....
......and the other that say..........guilty by association.
Posts: 3064
Threads: 3
Joined: July 10, 2016
Reputation:
37
Posts: 4238
Threads: 29
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
9
RE: Where else?
October 7, 2016 at 10:06 am
Posts: 4238
Threads: 29
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
9
RE: Where else?
October 7, 2016 at 10:16 am
Here I got a nice one.
Poor donkey.
Posts: 4238
Threads: 29
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
9
RE: Where else?
October 7, 2016 at 10:28 am
And here.
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Where else?
October 8, 2016 at 1:32 am
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2016 at 1:37 am by robvalue.)
Okay. So if some yoga guy says something, somewhere in the world, and I don't hear you disagreeing with it, then you agree with it. Good to know. Atheism isn't a club anyway. Are you in league with everyone who doesn't believe magical eggs rule the universe? Responsible for their opinions?
Or you could just be honest and say, "Many atheists on this forum say..."
We are not a hive mind. No, I don't agree with something by staying silent. I have to go around policing everything every atheist ever says? And report the results to you? You are beyond ridiculous. Again, all this for a point you already conceded is of no consequence to me. I don't care about whatever spirit world you think you're exploring, or whatever funky badger you think I'm gonna turn into. Yet you'll pile lie upon lie to avoid admitting a mistake regardless.
Posts: 4238
Threads: 29
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
9
RE: Where else?
October 8, 2016 at 8:12 am
(October 8, 2016 at 1:32 am)robvalue Wrote: Okay. So if some yoga guy says something, somewhere in the world, and I don't hear you disagreeing with it, then you agree with it. Good to know. Atheism isn't a club anyway. Are you in league with everyone who doesn't believe magical eggs rule the universe? Responsible for their opinions?
Or you could just be honest and say, "Many atheists on this forum say..."
We are not a hive mind. No, I don't agree with something by staying silent. I have to go around policing everything every atheist ever says? And report the results to you? You are beyond ridiculous. Again, all this for a point you already conceded is of no consequence to me. I don't care about whatever spirit world you think you're exploring, or whatever funky badger you think I'm gonna turn into. Yet you'll pile lie upon lie to avoid admitting a mistake regardless.
Very very silly Rob.
We are here in this forum and it is here that we are active so it is within this space that we are judged.
I also could not possibly see and argue over everything that goes on in this forum or elsewhere in the big world but at least sometime I would have expect you to challenge those who spout dogmas.
I never seen you doing that.
I never expected you to report to me something or anything at all.
All I am talking about is the fact that I never seen you argue with other atheists when they spout dogmas.
Actually it is you that started the argument by saying something like....atheism is such and such and if some atheists spout dogmas that has nothing to do with what atheism means.
My answer to this reply was that by keeping silent and by not challenging those who spout dogmas you also are seen as part of the problem.
You are free not to challenge those dogmas.
You are free to do what you like most but please don't play the victim when in reality by keeping silent you are seen as an associate of those who spout dogmas.
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation:
155
RE: Where else?
October 8, 2016 at 8:20 am
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2016 at 8:21 am by robvalue.)
You talk the most unbelievable rubbish. Other people can have whatever dogma they want. I don't adopt it automatically by not challenging it. If you need to project other people's positions onto me, and onto every atheist, just to try and make a point, you're really reaching my man. There is no problem, but if there was, I don't care if you see me as part of it or not. I don't know what kind of authority you think you are.
You don't get to tell me what my beliefs are, sorry. You don't get to tell anyone. Maybe one day you'll learn this. You're supposedly here to teach us something but all you do is tell us what we already think. You need to try another method other than slashing up straw.
|